Jamie Wall

He's been a long time.

Yeah, look, and the way the points table is at the moment, if this was the finals six, the Blues would be hosting the Crusaders in the first round of the finals.

Don't want that.

The other big game this weekend has got to be Force versus Reds.

And, you know, the Reds, the Highlanders have got to win their last two games, then they've got to buy.

But they're against...

Chiefs and Hurricanes and so you probably don't think they're going to win those games but this Reds force game because I still can't figure out the Aussie sides Mark you know who is the best Australian side is it going to be the Reds if they win this game

They'd lost six of eight coming into that one, yeah.

All right, finally, just the under-20s, and quickly on that, and I know that you and TJ spoke about this earlier in the week, that, you know, a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth and pulling hair out that we're so far behind the eight ball.

Well, that team did draw with the South Africans in the final game.

Yes, lost to Argentina, which was a poor result for them.

Beat Australia.

Are we that far behind?

And what do we place on this tournament compared to the world championship of the under-20s later in the year?

Well, OK, I've got it.

We can neglect the technical stuff.

I got the final say on this.

Our manager of the under six Northcote team is taking a holiday second week into the campaign, which you just got to ask yourself, John Day.

I mean, you know, the All Blacks need young six-year-olds right now out there training and bleeding from their eyeballs, Mark.

You've got a man here who's just sent his child off to school for the first time right this week.