Jamie

And it's always so like, it's like, I feel proud for them.

Like, I've always like looked up to that.

And I just think that that's Yeah.

at scale doing the things that they're doing is really, really impressive.

And then I think at the end of the day, it's really just for me, I mean, from the technical perspective, I think a lot of this is just showing your work, right?

Like there's too much opacity in this transparent ecosystem, right?

Like, how do you know?

yeah like how do you know what a curator's doing why is a curator doing what they're doing where's my money going how did i just get liquidated right like there's just all of these like what's going on i went to sleep today and i woke up with no money like so how do we like how do you educate people on what's going on and at every step of the way like i think showing your work like

is the homework, right?

Like, that's the hard part.

And then being there with the people, being there in the support tickets, being there, just showing your face, right?

Like, there's so many situations where everyone's just this faceless, I don't know, like NFT.

And that's cool.

I love that.

I think I have a little like cartoon character on my Twitter, but actually being and showing yourself and being at these conferences and

Absolutely.

Being transparent.

I think that's the, that's like meeting people where they're at.

There's really no better way to do that.

Yeah.