Jamie

And with Blend, we're actually able to create personalized hedging, these high financial engineering vehicles in every single person's account on chain transparently.

And that's literally something that just doesn't exist today.

unless you are staring at your markets 20.

But why do you want to do that?

If you want a bank account to save and actually spend it a little bit like go touch grass or go hang out, have a beer on a Friday night.

There's just there's a lot you can do if you're not staring at your screen.

And that's really what we're trying to optimize for.

Like almost almost just giving people their time back.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Yeah, I mean, I think Veda has actually been a really interesting company and protocol that I've seen.

I've had the opportunity to actually go through a lot of their contracts.

I think the really interesting part is like what they've actually contributed, like in terms of

open source, like, able code, I've never seen a team like a like an infrastructure team iterate that fast.

And it's always so like, it's like, I feel proud for them.

Like, I've always like looked up to that.

And I just think that that's Yeah.

at scale doing the things that they're doing is really, really impressive.

And then I think at the end of the day, it's really just for me, I mean, from the technical perspective, I think a lot of this is just showing your work, right?

Like there's too much opacity in this transparent ecosystem, right?

Like, how do you know?