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Jan Kulveit

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

Or they may want to use some piece of math they like.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

Or, they can have intuitive policy opinions, and the model could be selected so it supports some policy direction, this process is usually implicit and subconscious.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

The bottom line is if we are interested in claims and predictions about reality, the main part of economic papers are assumptions and concepts used.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

The math is usually right.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

Heading.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

Econ reasoning applied to post-AGI situations.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

The basic problem with applying standard economic reasoning to post-AGI situations is that sufficiently advanced AI may violate many assumptions which make perfect sense in human economy, but may not generalize.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

Often the assumptions are so basic that they are implicit, assumed in most econ papers, and out of sight in the usual examining the assumptions.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

Also advanced AI may break some of the intuitions about how the world works, breaking the intuitive process upstream of formal arguments.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

What complicates the matter is these assumptions often interact with considerations and disciplines outside of the core of economic discourse and are better understood and examined using frameworks from other disciplines.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

To give two examples.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

AI consumers.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

Consumption so far was driven by human decisions and utility.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

Standard economic models ultimately ground value in human preferences and utility.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

Humans consume, humans experience satisfaction, and the whole apparatus of welfare economics and policy evaluation flows from this.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

Firms are modeled as profit-maximizing, but profit is instrumental.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

It flows to human owners and workers who then consume.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

If AIs own capital and have preferences or goals of their own, this assumption breaks down.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

If such AIs spent resources, this should likely count as consumption in the economic sense.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Post-AGI Economics As If Nothing Ever Happens" by Jan_Kulveit

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