Janaki Mehta

Whether or not that's legal is not clear yet. Say, like, if the Ed Department has retained at least some of the employees at these offices that are protected by law, they could be leaving the door open to say that office hasn't completely been shut down. Kenneth Wong is a professor of education policy at Brown University, and here's what he said.

Whether or not that's legal is not clear yet. Say, like, if the Ed Department has retained at least some of the employees at these offices that are protected by law, they could be leaving the door open to say that office hasn't completely been shut down. Kenneth Wong is a professor of education policy at Brown University, and here's what he said.

So Wong says that will ultimately be up to Congress and probably the courts to decide.

So Wong says that will ultimately be up to Congress and probably the courts to decide.

So Wong says that will ultimately be up to Congress and probably the courts to decide.

Thank you, A.

Thank you, A.

Thank you, A.

The federal government's public service loan forgiveness program, known as PSLF, has been in place since 2007. It forgives a portion of loans for employees who work in the public sector or for nonprofits after they've completed 10 years of service. and 120 qualifying payments. What's left of their debt after that is forgiven by the government.

The federal government's public service loan forgiveness program, known as PSLF, has been in place since 2007. It forgives a portion of loans for employees who work in the public sector or for nonprofits after they've completed 10 years of service. and 120 qualifying payments. What's left of their debt after that is forgiven by the government.

Now, President Trump's executive order is attempting to limit who qualifies for the program. The order says PSLF would exclude, quote, individuals employed by organizations whose activities have a substantial illegal purpose. Legal expert Persis Yu of the Student Borough Protection Center said, a nonprofit that advocates for student loan borrowers.

Now, President Trump's executive order is attempting to limit who qualifies for the program. The order says PSLF would exclude, quote, individuals employed by organizations whose activities have a substantial illegal purpose. Legal expert Persis Yu of the Student Borough Protection Center said, a nonprofit that advocates for student loan borrowers.

It says any steps a Trump administration takes to modify the law would require a lengthy federal rulemaking process. Janaki Mehta, NPR News.

It says any steps a Trump administration takes to modify the law would require a lengthy federal rulemaking process. Janaki Mehta, NPR News.

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Good morning.

Good morning.

Yeah, so on Monday, Elon Musk's unit, the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, made severe cuts to the education department's independent research arm. I'm talking about the Institute of Education Sciences, or IES. DOGE eliminated most of the contracts the institute holds, nearly $9 million worth.

Yeah, so on Monday, Elon Musk's unit, the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, made severe cuts to the education department's independent research arm. I'm talking about the Institute of Education Sciences, or IES. DOGE eliminated most of the contracts the institute holds, nearly $9 million worth.

Yeah, so on Monday, Elon Musk's unit, the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, made severe cuts to the education department's independent research arm. I'm talking about the Institute of Education Sciences, or IES. DOGE eliminated most of the contracts the institute holds, nearly $9 million worth.