Jane Araf
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You know, at first she was like, well, maybe you can distort my voice, and then she didn't want even that. And she said, I'm sitting here trying to get this FEMA grant, and I'm going through with a thesaurus โ trying to look for a different way to say ecologist, trying to look for a different way to say โ to talk about tribes because they work with native tribes.
You know, at first she was like, well, maybe you can distort my voice, and then she didn't want even that. And she said, I'm sitting here trying to get this FEMA grant, and I'm going through with a thesaurus โ trying to look for a different way to say ecologist, trying to look for a different way to say โ to talk about tribes because they work with native tribes.
You know, at first she was like, well, maybe you can distort my voice, and then she didn't want even that. And she said, I'm sitting here trying to get this FEMA grant, and I'm going through with a thesaurus โ trying to look for a different way to say ecologist, trying to look for a different way to say โ to talk about tribes because they work with native tribes.
And then she was like, I don't want to go on tape because I'm a dual citizen. And so I'm worried that if I say something and I'm coming back from Canada โ she's a dual U.S. and Canadian citizen โ There could be some problem because of what I'm seeing happening with visa revocations. Of course, she's a citizen, but she's still worried.
And then she was like, I don't want to go on tape because I'm a dual citizen. And so I'm worried that if I say something and I'm coming back from Canada โ she's a dual U.S. and Canadian citizen โ There could be some problem because of what I'm seeing happening with visa revocations. Of course, she's a citizen, but she's still worried.
And then she was like, I don't want to go on tape because I'm a dual citizen. And so I'm worried that if I say something and I'm coming back from Canada โ she's a dual U.S. and Canadian citizen โ There could be some problem because of what I'm seeing happening with visa revocations. Of course, she's a citizen, but she's still worried.
And so I think it's a lot of sort of getting in line before there are consequences.
And so I think it's a lot of sort of getting in line before there are consequences.
And so I think it's a lot of sort of getting in line before there are consequences.
But then we found some people who were like, nope. I'm going to stand up. The more I thought about it, the more outraged I became. We spoke to this woman, Karen Ortiz. She's an administrative judge at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. So, you know, she would be who you would go to if you had a problem at work. Maybe you faced discrimination and you wanted it redressed.
But then we found some people who were like, nope. I'm going to stand up. The more I thought about it, the more outraged I became. We spoke to this woman, Karen Ortiz. She's an administrative judge at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. So, you know, she would be who you would go to if you had a problem at work. Maybe you faced discrimination and you wanted it redressed.
But then we found some people who were like, nope. I'm going to stand up. The more I thought about it, the more outraged I became. We spoke to this woman, Karen Ortiz. She's an administrative judge at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. So, you know, she would be who you would go to if you had a problem at work. Maybe you faced discrimination and you wanted it redressed.
You would go to somebody like Karen Ortiz. And on his first day in office, Trump signed this executive order that declared that the U.S. government now only recognizes two sexes, male, female. And about a week after that executive order, Ortiz says she received this directive from her direct supervisor to pause all their LGBTQ cases in New York and send them to Washington for further review.
You would go to somebody like Karen Ortiz. And on his first day in office, Trump signed this executive order that declared that the U.S. government now only recognizes two sexes, male, female. And about a week after that executive order, Ortiz says she received this directive from her direct supervisor to pause all their LGBTQ cases in New York and send them to Washington for further review.
You would go to somebody like Karen Ortiz. And on his first day in office, Trump signed this executive order that declared that the U.S. government now only recognizes two sexes, male, female. And about a week after that executive order, Ortiz says she received this directive from her direct supervisor to pause all their LGBTQ cases in New York and send them to Washington for further review.
I was seething. And so she decided to stand up and say no. And she hit reply all, sent an email back to her boss and the entire agency.
I was seething. And so she decided to stand up and say no. And she hit reply all, sent an email back to her boss and the entire agency.
I was seething. And so she decided to stand up and say no. And she hit reply all, sent an email back to her boss and the entire agency.
Yeah. I've worked in countries where the consequences are extremely severe for criticizing governments. Right. In Syria, you were actually disappeared. Nobody knew where you went and you showed up often dead or never. You know, we saw mass graves from that regime. In Egypt, you know, same thing. You could end up in house arrest.
Yeah. I've worked in countries where the consequences are extremely severe for criticizing governments. Right. In Syria, you were actually disappeared. Nobody knew where you went and you showed up often dead or never. You know, we saw mass graves from that regime. In Egypt, you know, same thing. You could end up in house arrest.