Jane Black

Well, so there was a lot of hype about this.

And, you know, their big message was we are now focusing on whole, nutrient-dense foods.

In fact, the dietary guidelines have actually always recommended whole foods.

The language wasn't as clear as it is now.

And I think that change in language is good.

And I think people are really excited about it.

The new food pyramid is wacky because if you can picture the old food pyramid, remember grains were at the bottom.

That's the biggest.

And then at the top was saturated fats, you know, eggs, butter, meat, that kind of thing.

And basically what they've done is they flipped the entire thing upside down.

So now at the top, you have cheese and eggs and steak and whole milk and, yes, also fruits and vegetables.

And at the bottom, in the tiny point of the pyramid, are whole grains.

Are you seeing what I'm seeing?

There is a plastic container of ground beef.

You should eat your burgers.

That feels wrong.

So the reason you're confused is because there are a lot of conflicting messages here.

One of the reasons people really hate nutrition science is because it's always changing, right?

It's like, you can drink red wine.

No, you can't drink red wine.