Jane Coaston

And I'm like, well, that's a very American Catholic thing.

I will say like, that's kind of an ancient American Catholic tradition of being like the Pope said it.

I don't really need to get involved with whatever the head of the Vatican said.

But like you believe that the church should move towards you and your weirdo politics.

You believe that the church should talk more about how gay people are bad and less about how poverty is wrong.

Even though one of those things is mentioned a lot in the New Testament and the other isn't.

And I'll leave it to the listener to guess which one.

And so like, there's a real sense of like, you converted to this religion and then you're, it's like, you know, you moved into a house and,

But a lot of people were already living there and you're mad that they haven't just started renovating for you.

The other half of this and what really gets my goat is why I believe and what I would argue, you know, a couple of other people have said is why someone like J.D.

Vance converts to Catholicism.

Not because he had a road to Damascus moment, not because the scales fell from his eyes and he was knocked off a horse, but because it's politically expedient.

Yeah.

And you see this like the, you know, Constantine did it better.

OK, like Emperor Constantine saw the cross in the sky, whatever.

You know, people have converted for political reasons before.

It took, you know, famously, you know, Paris is worth a mass.

I know that.

But to convert, not because you believe in it, but because you believe that it is popular or will help you politically, I find that repulsive.

And I don't mean to get on... I'm aware that I am on a soapbox now, but like...