Jane Goodall

So I was perfectly aware of possible danger and tried to be as careful as I could.

And he spent quite a lot of time teaching me so that he didn't tell me not to be afraid.

And I think there are moments when fear is terribly important.

You know, if you suddenly hear stamping or snorting close by in the undergrowth, it's better to have some kind of mechanism to deal with it.

Like climbing a tree, which I once did just in time not to be charged by two buffaloes.

Well, you just described a close call.

No, I never was actually harmed until quite recently.

We have one chimp who's a bully, Fifi's son, Frodo.

And he just loves, he's not trying to actually really hurt or kill anyone, but because the ground is so rugged and rocky, if he knocks you over and drags you and stamps on you, you can get a little bit hurt.

And I did.

What did he do to you?

Well, he knocked me over and then he stamped on me and then he charged away and then, which he does to lots of people, but for some reason he charged back twice more and stamped and dragged and sort of cracked open, well, not cracked over my head, but I had a bleeding cut where he'd hit my head on a rock and a damaged ankle.

So I try to avoid Frodo.

He is potentially dangerous.

He's 130 pounds, the biggest chimp we've had there.

He's the top-ranking male now, and he is huge.

Well, theoretically, I think it's just chimp behavior.

I must accept it.

But actually, you know, chimps are so like people.

I actually get pretty mad at him.