Janet Egan

They can be copied and pasted.

They can be duplicated.

The compute is like a physical piece of the supply chain.

It's got a very narrow supply chain.

The US and its allies have quite strong control over the compute supply chain currently, although China's starting to work up slowly to try and indigenize their own.

Focus a lot on compute and how that can be used for verification.

And then we come to the, well, what are you actually trying to verify?

What are you trying to do in this space?

I think this is where the actual consensus is still working its way through the pipeline.

But my strong push here is that you don't need to have consensus on exactly what you want to govern.

You want to have the technology ready now

to allow for that governance once that consensus is reached.

And we can see the similarities here in the nuclear paradigm as well.

When people reached consensus, they had tactics and techniques ready to start implementing to prove that different states were adhering to their commitments.

So the newest chips from Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA all ship with something called a trusted execution environment or similar, which is basically a part of the chip that when you run a model or program inside this vault, the hardware can take a fingerprint of exactly what was run and signs it.

So the lab itself can say, based on this hardware, based on this cryptographic key, based on the hashware generating, we can actually show that this is a statement that is true.

Now, this is pretty nascent, but people are actually starting to progress.

The technical reality is there, but how we actually use that for different verifiable claims is still being...

Yeah, I guess these mechanisms on the chip are already built in for security purposes.

So when you want to secure your chip, you need a very secure component on the chip to rely on.