Janet Holmes à Court

That there is hope in the people that, like you, who've given a huge amount of your life to the arts and it's a public service.

This is a vibe, Kevin, such a vibe.

What does that even mean?

I'm talking about these lights.

It's a vibe, you know, it's a vibe.

It's a vibe.

I mean, we were the recipients of the great architects that fled.

Your wonderful collection, In a Perfect World, where would it end up and how do people see it and how does it live?

Ah, of course, yeah.

Dammit, Janet, wasn't she fantastic?

Well, Janet, because she's pretty stylish, very, very stylish woman.

Her collection of art, after the interview, we went into the cool room and she just kept pulling the sliding panels out to reveal.

We saw hundreds of her artworks and she had a story for all of them.

I love this idea that she's not precious about them and that they can go anywhere.

I was trying to get an exhibition going from Sydney to the UK once and it was like a stack out of bike helmet that was in the collection of the powerhouse.

The bill to send them across to the museum in London was like,

to create a packing crate was like $60,000.

And I just sort of went, oh, can you just put them in a suitcase for me and I'll fly first class and do it.

And is that idea that she said that art should be seen by as many people as possible and if we keep hiding it away forever, all art's a race against time for how long it will survive for.

And if we shorten the length of those pieces surviving forever,