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Janice Morgan

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Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

By late 2005, they assembled a task force to investigate the two women. The squad included several undercover detectives who followed Helen and Olga wherever they went. As author Jean King explains in her book, Signed in Blood, Helen was easy to keep eyes on. Every day, she drove her flashy Mercedes SUV down to Izzy's, a Santa Monica deli that she loved.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

By late 2005, they assembled a task force to investigate the two women. The squad included several undercover detectives who followed Helen and Olga wherever they went. As author Jean King explains in her book, Signed in Blood, Helen was easy to keep eyes on. Every day, she drove her flashy Mercedes SUV down to Izzy's, a Santa Monica deli that she loved.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

She always sat in table 22, where she did her bookkeeping. Olga, on the other hand, was a little harder to trail. Remember how Helen and Olga had initially bonded over their workouts? Well, Olga had never stopped. Even at 72, she was a machine. She was always running along the beach or up through the Runyon Canyon trails. She was so fast that even the LAPD detectives struggled to keep pace.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

She always sat in table 22, where she did her bookkeeping. Olga, on the other hand, was a little harder to trail. Remember how Helen and Olga had initially bonded over their workouts? Well, Olga had never stopped. Even at 72, she was a machine. She was always running along the beach or up through the Runyon Canyon trails. She was so fast that even the LAPD detectives struggled to keep pace.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

The women had the cops run ragged, even though they had no idea they were being tailed. It didn't even cross either of their minds that they might be in danger of getting caught. All they were concerned about was getting their money. Which they did. In August of 2005, just two months after Kenneth's death, Helen and Olga received about $250,000 in death benefits.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

The women had the cops run ragged, even though they had no idea they were being tailed. It didn't even cross either of their minds that they might be in danger of getting caught. All they were concerned about was getting their money. Which they did. In August of 2005, just two months after Kenneth's death, Helen and Olga received about $250,000 in death benefits.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

But that was only some of the money owed to them. Remember, there were over $3 million to collect. but they wouldn't see a dime more if Ed Webster had anything to say about it. The police might not have had enough evidence to arrest the women, but Ed wasn't working with the same burden of proof.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

But that was only some of the money owed to them. Remember, there were over $3 million to collect. but they wouldn't see a dime more if Ed Webster had anything to say about it. The police might not have had enough evidence to arrest the women, but Ed wasn't working with the same burden of proof.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

He was convinced Helen and Olga were responsible for Kenneth's death, and he told Mutual of New York not to pay them out. The company agreed, and he got to deliver the message. In January 2006, he asked Helen to meet in person over at her favorite spot, Izzy's. She probably thought he was coming to admit defeat and hand over her long-awaited check.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

He was convinced Helen and Olga were responsible for Kenneth's death, and he told Mutual of New York not to pay them out. The company agreed, and he got to deliver the message. In January 2006, he asked Helen to meet in person over at her favorite spot, Izzy's. She probably thought he was coming to admit defeat and hand over her long-awaited check.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

So when he walked in, she sat straight up and waved him over. Ed was equally smug. He took a seat across from her and passed her an envelope. He watched as she ripped it open to find a check inside. only it wasn't the one she wanted. Ed explained that the insurance policy was refunding her premiums.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

So when he walked in, she sat straight up and waved him over. Ed was equally smug. He took a seat across from her and passed her an envelope. He watched as she ripped it open to find a check inside. only it wasn't the one she wanted. Ed explained that the insurance policy was refunding her premiums.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

Because she had lied about the nature of her relationship with Kenneth and obtained the policy through criminal means, they weren't going to pay her the death benefits. Helen was furious. They couldn't do this. The policies were supposed to be incontestable. She shouted at Ed, accusing him of being out to get her.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

Because she had lied about the nature of her relationship with Kenneth and obtained the policy through criminal means, they weren't going to pay her the death benefits. Helen was furious. They couldn't do this. The policies were supposed to be incontestable. She shouted at Ed, accusing him of being out to get her.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

Then she stormed out of the diner and reportedly reached out to Olga to let her know what had happened. Olga had also scheduled a meeting with Ed for that morning. But after Helen's alleged phone call, she blew it off. So he went to her. Later that day, Ed stood at Olga's apartment door and handed her a letter that explained why Mutual of New York wasn't going to honor her policy.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

Then she stormed out of the diner and reportedly reached out to Olga to let her know what had happened. Olga had also scheduled a meeting with Ed for that morning. But after Helen's alleged phone call, she blew it off. So he went to her. Later that day, Ed stood at Olga's apartment door and handed her a letter that explained why Mutual of New York wasn't going to honor her policy.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

Helen and Olga had just lost everything they'd spent the last two years working for. It felt like they'd hit rock bottom. Which might be why they turned on each other.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

Helen and Olga had just lost everything they'd spent the last two years working for. It felt like they'd hit rock bottom. Which might be why they turned on each other.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

After two long years of planning the perfect murder, Helen Goulet and Olga Ruderschmidt were back to square one. They weren't getting the big payout they'd hoped for, at least not when it came to Kenneth McDavid. But for someone else, that was up to fate to decide. So by early 2006, the two septuagenarians had already started hunting for a new victim.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
Golden Years Killers Pt. 2

After two long years of planning the perfect murder, Helen Goulet and Olga Ruderschmidt were back to square one. They weren't getting the big payout they'd hoped for, at least not when it came to Kenneth McDavid. But for someone else, that was up to fate to decide. So by early 2006, the two septuagenarians had already started hunting for a new victim.