Janice Morgan

For more information on Helen Goulet and Olga Ruderschmidt, Amongst the many sources we used, we found Signed in Blood, The True Story of Two Women, A Sinister Plot, and Cold-Blooded Murder by Jean King and reporting from Dateline extremely helpful to our research. Stay safe out there.

For more information on Helen Goulet and Olga Ruderschmidt, Amongst the many sources we used, we found Signed in Blood, The True Story of Two Women, A Sinister Plot, and Cold-Blooded Murder by Jean King and reporting from Dateline extremely helpful to our research. Stay safe out there.

This episode was written by Alex Burns, edited by Jane Oh, Joel Callen, and Maggie Admire, fact-checked by Bennett Logan, researched by Mickey Taylor and Chelsea Wood, and sound designed by Alex Button. I'm your host, Janice Morgan.

This episode was written by Alex Burns, edited by Jane Oh, Joel Callen, and Maggie Admire, fact-checked by Bennett Logan, researched by Mickey Taylor and Chelsea Wood, and sound designed by Alex Button. I'm your host, Janice Morgan.

This episode includes discussions of murder. Consider this when deciding how and when you'll listen. At first glance, you probably wouldn't clock Helen Goulet and Olga Ruderschmidt as serial killers. Helen was a Texan with big hair and a mind for real estate. Olga was a fast-talking Hungarian immigrant who made a habit out of suing people. Both were over 62, old enough to retire.

This episode includes discussions of murder. Consider this when deciding how and when you'll listen. At first glance, you probably wouldn't clock Helen Goulet and Olga Ruderschmidt as serial killers. Helen was a Texan with big hair and a mind for real estate. Olga was a fast-talking Hungarian immigrant who made a habit out of suing people. Both were over 62, old enough to retire.

In decades on their own, neither woman was a hardened criminal. However, once they got together, they became co-conspirators in a shocking insurance scheme, one that left millions of dollars in their pockets and at least two bodies in their wake. This is Serial Killers, a Spotify podcast. I'm Janice Morgan.

In decades on their own, neither woman was a hardened criminal. However, once they got together, they became co-conspirators in a shocking insurance scheme, one that left millions of dollars in their pockets and at least two bodies in their wake. This is Serial Killers, a Spotify podcast. I'm Janice Morgan.

You might recognize me as the voice behind the investigative docuseries Broken and the true crime podcast Fear Thy Neighbor. I'm guest hosting for Serial Killers, and I'm thrilled to be here. Be sure to check us out on Instagram at Serial Killers Podcast, and we'd love to hear from you. So if you're listening on the Spotify app, swipe up and give us your thoughts.

You might recognize me as the voice behind the investigative docuseries Broken and the true crime podcast Fear Thy Neighbor. I'm guest hosting for Serial Killers, and I'm thrilled to be here. Be sure to check us out on Instagram at Serial Killers Podcast, and we'd love to hear from you. So if you're listening on the Spotify app, swipe up and give us your thoughts.

Today, we'll meet Helen Goulet and Olga Ruderschmidt. They found their victims in Los Angeles in the late 90s and early 2000s, in between trips to the gym. Stay with us.

Today, we'll meet Helen Goulet and Olga Ruderschmidt. They found their victims in Los Angeles in the late 90s and early 2000s, in between trips to the gym. Stay with us.

Once they became friends, Helen Goulet and Olga Ruderschmidt did just about everything together. But while the two were joined at the hip in adulthood, their beginnings couldn't have been more different. Because she was born first, we'll start with Helen's story, which begins in Texas in 1931. her childhood was marred by instability and tragedy.

Once they became friends, Helen Goulet and Olga Ruderschmidt did just about everything together. But while the two were joined at the hip in adulthood, their beginnings couldn't have been more different. Because she was born first, we'll start with Helen's story, which begins in Texas in 1931. her childhood was marred by instability and tragedy.

Soon after her birth, her mom left the family and ran off with another man. When she was still just a young girl, her dad died in a car crash. She moved in with her grandfather in Texas, then her cousins in Washington State. But nothing lasted. Eventually, during her late teens, she ended up in foster care, which she left when she turned 18.

Soon after her birth, her mom left the family and ran off with another man. When she was still just a young girl, her dad died in a car crash. She moved in with her grandfather in Texas, then her cousins in Washington State. But nothing lasted. Eventually, during her late teens, she ended up in foster care, which she left when she turned 18.

After graduating high school, Helen tried to establish herself in Oakland, California, struggling to find a good job and provide for herself. But she soon found out that it was easier to rely on someone else than to fend for herself. In this instance, that someone else was 22-year-old Vernon Goulet.

After graduating high school, Helen tried to establish herself in Oakland, California, struggling to find a good job and provide for herself. But she soon found out that it was easier to rely on someone else than to fend for herself. In this instance, that someone else was 22-year-old Vernon Goulet.

When they met in 1951, Vernon was a Navy veteran on his way to becoming a dentist with a steady salary. That meant he could take care of Helen in a way no one had since she was a little girl. The couple married and settled down in Salem, Oregon, and went on to have two daughters. For a while, it seemed that Helen's life had changed for the better.

When they met in 1951, Vernon was a Navy veteran on his way to becoming a dentist with a steady salary. That meant he could take care of Helen in a way no one had since she was a little girl. The couple married and settled down in Salem, Oregon, and went on to have two daughters. For a while, it seemed that Helen's life had changed for the better.