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Janice Morgan

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Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

So Jackie went to Hantman's old cabin and searched the place. As she walked the grounds, she spotted something half buried in the earth. The remains of black trash bags. Disintegrated, like they'd been sitting there for years. Jackie couldn't help but think, maybe these are the same garbage bags used to wrap up Kristen's dismembered body. It was a glimmer of hope.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

So Jackie went to Hantman's old cabin and searched the place. As she walked the grounds, she spotted something half buried in the earth. The remains of black trash bags. Disintegrated, like they'd been sitting there for years. Jackie couldn't help but think, maybe these are the same garbage bags used to wrap up Kristen's dismembered body. It was a glimmer of hope.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Remember, years earlier, police thought they might be able to get DNA from the garbage bags or newspapers, and genetic technology had advanced a lot by the 2000s. If samples of these items still existed, police might be able to salvage DNA from them and compare it to Hantman's genetic profile. there was a major problem.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Remember, years earlier, police thought they might be able to get DNA from the garbage bags or newspapers, and genetic technology had advanced a lot by the 2000s. If samples of these items still existed, police might be able to salvage DNA from them and compare it to Hantman's genetic profile. there was a major problem.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Jackie had no idea where the original garbage bags and newspapers even were, certainly not in evidence storage, and there was actually a pretty good chance they'd been thrown out in the last four decades. In the end, Jackie's discovery didn't amount to much. But it wasn't a dead end, because Jackie wasn't the only one searching for answers. Remember Christina Nelson?

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Jackie had no idea where the original garbage bags and newspapers even were, certainly not in evidence storage, and there was actually a pretty good chance they'd been thrown out in the last four decades. In the end, Jackie's discovery didn't amount to much. But it wasn't a dead end, because Jackie wasn't the only one searching for answers. Remember Christina Nelson?

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Her cousin, Gloria Boebertz, devoted her life to finding answers for all the victims' families. Like Jackie and the authorities, Gloria believed Frank was guilty. But she also thought there were more than just five victims. With his history of violence, she was convinced Frank had to be responsible for other murders. If she could find proof of that, it might help prosecute him in the valley.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Her cousin, Gloria Boebertz, devoted her life to finding answers for all the victims' families. Like Jackie and the authorities, Gloria believed Frank was guilty. But she also thought there were more than just five victims. With his history of violence, she was convinced Frank had to be responsible for other murders. If she could find proof of that, it might help prosecute him in the valley.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Gloria's mission took her all the way to Chicago, where she looked into the 1963 murder of an eight-year-old girl. The victim was last seen alive at a local YMCA, the same place Frank worked as a youth camp counselor. At the time, Chicago police questioned nearly everyone in the neighborhood, including 15-year-old Frank, but he was never a real suspect.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Gloria's mission took her all the way to Chicago, where she looked into the 1963 murder of an eight-year-old girl. The victim was last seen alive at a local YMCA, the same place Frank worked as a youth camp counselor. At the time, Chicago police questioned nearly everyone in the neighborhood, including 15-year-old Frank, but he was never a real suspect.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

The cops thought they were looking for someone much older. Gloria sent everything she learned to Detective Jackie Nichols. And the more Jackie read about it, the more she thought Gloria was onto something. Jackie called up her counterparts in Chicago and shared the details of her investigation. From there, the FBI stepped in. They asked for all of Jackie's notes and files. Then they took over.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

The cops thought they were looking for someone much older. Gloria sent everything she learned to Detective Jackie Nichols. And the more Jackie read about it, the more she thought Gloria was onto something. Jackie called up her counterparts in Chicago and shared the details of her investigation. From there, the FBI stepped in. They asked for all of Jackie's notes and files. Then they took over.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

As we mentioned at the beginning, the investigation is currently in the hands of the FBI. They continue to gather clues in hopes of prosecuting the killer. Meanwhile, in the Lewis Clark Valley, life was permanently altered. Kristen David, Brandy Miller, and Christina Nelson were all found and returned to their families. But to this day, Christina White and Steven Purcell have never been located.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

As we mentioned at the beginning, the investigation is currently in the hands of the FBI. They continue to gather clues in hopes of prosecuting the killer. Meanwhile, in the Lewis Clark Valley, life was permanently altered. Kristen David, Brandy Miller, and Christina Nelson were all found and returned to their families. But to this day, Christina White and Steven Purcell have never been located.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Christina's father, Gary White, held out hope that Christina was still alive until the day he died. In the 2011 documentary Confluence, he told filmmakers, quote, You just sit there and hope that somewhere down the line she'll surface and will be a happy lady. She was born in 1967, and so you know she's a young woman now if she's still alive. Who can blame him for hoping?

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Christina's father, Gary White, held out hope that Christina was still alive until the day he died. In the 2011 documentary Confluence, he told filmmakers, quote, You just sit there and hope that somewhere down the line she'll surface and will be a happy lady. She was born in 1967, and so you know she's a young woman now if she's still alive. Who can blame him for hoping?

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Sometimes that's the only way to deal with such terrifying, senseless violence. To hope some of the victims will turn up safe. To hope answers will be found. To hope justice will be served. These crimes serve as a constant reminder that evil lingers in the safest places. There's no turning back from that loss of innocence. And there's no forgetting, only processing.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

Sometimes that's the only way to deal with such terrifying, senseless violence. To hope some of the victims will turn up safe. To hope answers will be found. To hope justice will be served. These crimes serve as a constant reminder that evil lingers in the safest places. There's no turning back from that loss of innocence. And there's no forgetting, only processing.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

One local, who was a kid when the murders happened, recalled hearing a rumor about a certain man, a danger in their midst. He said in a later interview, kids and teens knew to stay away from him, even if the police couldn't arrest him. That kid, Brian Fuller, grew up to create TV shows like Pushing Daisies, Dead Like Me, and Hannibal, which is about serial killers.

Killer Stories with Harvey Guillén
The Lewis Clark Valley Murders

One local, who was a kid when the murders happened, recalled hearing a rumor about a certain man, a danger in their midst. He said in a later interview, kids and teens knew to stay away from him, even if the police couldn't arrest him. That kid, Brian Fuller, grew up to create TV shows like Pushing Daisies, Dead Like Me, and Hannibal, which is about serial killers.