Jared Bernstein

And I actually think that's really kind of foundational.

I mean, the way we used to talk about this when we were in the White House was we would say,

correctly, we just got a great GDP report.

We just got a great jobs report, you know, 200,000 jobs, 3% growth.

That would be part one.

Part two would be, but we know you're still hurting and prices are too high.

Part three would be, we're going to do everything we can to help on that.

Maybe a three-part message is way too complicated.

Maybe all people cared about was that part two, they're hurting, their prices are too high.

But we didn't tell them

your prices aren't too high and that things are affordable and that affordability is a democratic con job, which is what Trump said yesterday.

So we tried to meet people where they were, I don't think particularly successfully.

And I do think we talked past them, but we never gaslit them.

And I would argue that that's what these folks are doing.

B, they're making affordability a lot worse with all the tariffs.

And of course, we weren't doing that.

Right.

Well, there's a lot in there, so let's unpack it.

So first of all, on President Biden, I think you're spot on.

I think he came up in terms of an economic world where if the job market is strong and you're at full employment,