Jared Freed

I think we talked about it before.

Female 30 is male 40.

And vice versa.

So there are things that we are both ready for.

right that you wouldn't have been ready for at 32 no not even a little right I wasn't ready at 38 you know yeah but I don't know it's uh and and like changing my life now to like have someone else be involved in it like that is somewhat easier you know and change and I don't think it was as easy a couple years ago but it's also like going through like you know did you like doing things on your own you know

Did you enjoy those things, experiencing those things alone?

Yeah, I mean, she tried for therapy.

When he says no to therapy- He's not interested in making it work.

Right, you're negotiating against yourself.

Right.

Yeah, I think it's because-

Men, to give an answer that's not going to be likable, I think men are fixers.

You know, if a woman tells me she's sick, I'm like, what do you need, hospital, water?

Sometimes it feels like therapy is just this ongoing, never-ending work in progress that one thing we'll find, the next thing we'll find, the next thing.

Okay, because it's not like a linear, clear process.

There's no like, there's the end, the house is done, we did it.

Right.

That doesn't generally present itself.

I'm sure people have found that through therapy, but it doesn't.

And I don't think when I think a lot of men are like, what's the point if we're not going to fix it?