Jared Isaacman

and infrequent to templated and routine, which means we're going to need a lot of hyper-gall thrusters, right?

So this is why we're deploying our subject matter experts into the field with our partners to drive outcomes, because if we wind up in a situation where we're going over budget or behind schedule, we are going to act.

We're either going to act with our partners or we're going to apply some of the best and brightest minds from across the nation to build the solution ourselves to get to the outcome.

You said this morning, and you've just reiterated, that you've asked industry to find ways to get back to the moon more rapidly.

But I guess to try and make that a little more crystallized, what are the benchmarks that you'll hold them to?

What are the milestones that you need industry to hit?

And then we can get, I guess, onto the Artemis program from there.

Well, let's break it into two categories.

So just returning humans to the moon, we said we got to get at a pace of launching a moon rocket with greater frequency than every three years.

So we need you to pull forward production, pull everything to the left, set up for another mission.

So Artemis 2 is going to launch in a week and go around the moon.

Artemis 3 is going to be very a la Apollo 9, launch in Earth orbit, rendezvous with one or two landers,

And then we'll set up for Artemis 4 and 5, which will be a landing on the moon in 2028.

So we've spoken to industry and told them, you have to start pulling things to the left.

We will, again, deploy resources to help you in that process.

We will also rebuild core competencies so we can turn our launch pad to meet launch cadence.

But then there's also building the moon base, which is lots of landings in phase one, which is our test and experimentation phase.

This is where robotics comes in.

Yes, so this is where we've sent a demand signal to industry today.

Again, not infrequent bespoke landers and rovers, lots of them, iterative approach.