Jared Isaacman

And the other one said, I'd rather meet you into a high Earth orbit.

In either scenario, it doesn't change the fact that Orion is going to get to those landers via the Space Launch System.

it's just that NHRO is not included in either plan.

Correct.

Could we speak a little bit about Mars before we run out of time?

Sure, we have a really exciting mission to Mars to be announced today.

Explain it, and there is a date, there is a timeline for it, which I was a little surprised at.

Yeah, so we will never give up

an opportunity to go to Mars during the planetary alignment window.

The next one comes in 2028.

We've got a Mars telecommunication network orbiter that's going to Mars in 2028, which will carry a science payload.

We have a joint mission with ESA, the Rosalind Franklin rover.

which is going to go search for potentially organic matter.

It's part of our larger quest for looking for life out in the universe.

And then the big announcement today is we are launching the first nuclear interplanetary spacecraft, nuclear electric-powered spaceship, and it's going to drop the Skyfall payload, which is Ingenuity-class helicopters on Mars.

We didn't go right to Apollo 11, right?

We had a whole Mercury program, Gemini, Apollo, lots of Apollo missions before we ultimately landed.

Right now, our program is essentially set up with an Apollo 8 and then going right to the moon.

That is, again, not a pathway to success.

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