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Jared Isaacman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

So F-35s were just coming online.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

And I remember we had four.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

It was supposed to be just a 4v4, which means we should just get killed.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

A4s against four F-35s from the Joint Operational Test Team.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

And three of the F-35s ground aborted.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

So it became a 4v1.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

And we had used up the entire airspace.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

I mean, we had jets high, low on the deck, and from different angles.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

And this one F-35 just went around and made easy work of everyone, just dispatched everyone super quick.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

No kidding.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

But what...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

What I thought over time, and this kind of comes to my only real political position that I really, truly care about, which is just the competitiveness of the nation.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

I got concerned when we were coming up with ways that could really create problems for Blue Air.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

that if I could afford it, if I could afford to do these things to our aircraft, then certainly the North Koreans could and the Iranians, but definitely the Chinese are going to be able to do it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

And we started to be very dismissive of it as, well, that's not going to be a problem because if it is, we'll do that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

But there were a lot of other scenarios where we didn't apply that kind of thinking or logic to it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

And every year that started to go by, the Chinese threat specifically was getting better and better and better.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

I mean, really, over, again, a five-year period of time, you're simulating a MiG-21 to a dramatically improved flanker.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

I use kind of the SpaceX example sometimes on it, where when it comes to China, what we think we know is already so dated.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

Two years is a long time in that world.