Jared Kushner

And again, the first two years, we had a little bit of issue working with Russia because they were accused of colluding with us, and so we had to go through that investigation again.

But in the second two years, we were trying to focus Russia on what are the areas where we can collaborate together.

I think Russia, we thought it was in their strategic advantage to play US and China against each other because of the way that everything was done before.

They were stuck with China, but not getting a lot for it.

Under Bush, they took Georgia.

Under Obama, they took Crimea.

Under Trump,

There was no problems.

And then under Biden, unfortunately, I think they misplayed a couple of things, which I think provoked Russia to go forward.

Still no excuse to do what they did.

I think that the invasion was a terrible thing and should not have occurred.

But with that being said, I think 100%, if Trump was president, there would not be a war in Ukraine today.

I think we go back to negotiations.

Number one is trust, right?

Both leaders have to have the ability to communicate what an off-ramp is without fearing it's gonna leak to the public.

So if you go to the posture of Zelensky right now,

And by the way, President Zelensky, I have a lot of respect for the courage he showed, especially initially.

You saw what Ghani did in Afghanistan.

They were getting attacked by the Taliban.

He took the cash and got the hell out of there.