Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
There's no territorial disputes, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
The border's the border.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
There's no religious issues there as well.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
You're not dealing with Jerusalem.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
You're basically just dealing with the fact that Israel wants to make sure that there's no threat from Gaza.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
So it's a demilitarization or some kind of security guarantee from a credible source where Israel doesn't feel like Gaza can be used to stage attacks into Israel or to fire rockets into Israel.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And by the way, these are things I was saying three, four years ago, that that was the objective.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And that was really the fear now that's been proven.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
Unfortunately, the fear continues.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
has manifested.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And in exchange, you can rebuild the place and you can give the people a much better life.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
But Hamas has not shown a desire for that or a capability for that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And I don't think there's enough trust to allow them to do that, which is why, you know, under the current circumstances, if you do want to have peace there, Hamas has to be either eliminated or severely degraded in terms of their military capabilities.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
So, all I can talk about are where we left them, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
We left them a place where they had tremendous momentum in the Middle East.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
I met with them during the transition and said, you know, look, you know, we even got the Qatar-Saudi conflict done, which was a bigβno peace between Israel and Saudi would have been possible without that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
So, we even got that done in our lame duck period.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And they came in and they said, look, we want to focus on the three Cs, which is COVID, climate change, and China.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And I said, that's great.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
But the Middle East, we have an amazing place right now.