Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
A boss who runs a refugee organization, a refugee group, right, that claims that they don't have a state that gets billions of dollars in aid every year from the global community would fly in a $60 million Boeing BBJ.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
So the whole thing was just very corrupt and off.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And I do think that that's why it, I don't think people were incentivized to solve it, to be honest.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
You have to separate it into two different issues.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And I think that that's actually how we came to the Abraham Accords is that, you know, I tell the story in the book and it was one of my like favorite experiences during my time in diplomacy where I went to meet with Sultan Qaboos, who was the Sultan of Oman.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And we fly out there because he'd had a secret meeting with Bibi.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And I thought maybe he was open to normalizing with Israel.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
So after he meets with Bibi, he calls me and says, I want you to come see me.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
So I go over to see him.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And again, I tell the story.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
It was a crazy night and all these different areas.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
But when I was talking to him, he basically says to me,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
I feel badly for the Palestinian people that they carry with them the burden of the Muslim world.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And that line just like stuck with me.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And a couple of days later, I was thinking about it and I said, wait a minute.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
who elected the Palestinian people to represent the Muslim world on the Al-Aqsa Mosque?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And so the reason why I felt like it had never been solved was it was a riddle, A, that I believed was designed to not be solved.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
But B, you were conflating two separate issues.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
You had the issue between Israel and the Muslim world, which really was the issue of the Al-Aqsa Mosque.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 โ Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And then you had just a territorial dispute, which throughout history, you have lots of territorial disputes and they're usually resolved in different ways.