Jared Osmond

I'm never going to direct her or tell her what to say or do, but I don't have to participate in the filming side of that.

And I think that actually might be a better way to structure our relationship so that, that I'm not always in reaction.

Oh, my goodness.

Should I lay down and tell you about my mother?

This is a psychological dig right there.

Let me tell you what I think I've done right, where I think I've failed.

I've shown up for her in ways that

That I think a masculine real man should.

I think men should live in their masculine.

You should make your partner feel safe.

And I have tried to do that in every other way except for this emotional side where I have not made her feel safe.

And this is why she runs.

It's a big side.

Oh, it's gigantic.

Yeah.

And we're trying to work through it.

I mean, and this is why we're still here.

It's why we're still present trying to work through it.

People may judge that and say, well, this, like when she kissed me at BravoCon was really controversial.

Everybody booed and like, they don't know that we're working.