Jared Santo

Obviously, you're still out there hunting it.

So I assume the treatments will continue, the research will continue, and the hunting will continue.

Hopefully that...

that vaccine or what the mra treatment you're going to take 50 50 chance hopefully it lands on heads and uh you can be free from this but it seems like you're not just surviving but also thriving at least from what we can tell yeah for sure very with your many businesses and all your interests so it's pretty cool it's a it's been great and i'll settle uh i'll settle for this as long as uh i'm having a yeah a ton of ton of fun uh pushing all of this forward and

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I'm Jared Santo, and you're listening to The Change Log, where each and every week we have conversations with the hackers, the leaders, and the innovators of the software world. We pick their brains, we learn from their mistakes, we get inspired by their accomplishments, and we have a lot of fun along the way. Today we are joined by Barrett Huber.

I'm Jared Santo, and you're listening to The Change Log, where each and every week we have conversations with the hackers, the leaders, and the innovators of the software world. We pick their brains, we learn from their mistakes, we get inspired by their accomplishments, and we have a lot of fun along the way. Today we are joined by Barrett Huber.

After over 30 years in the software industry, Barrett has experienced a lot. He founded PowerDNS, published articles for places like IETF and IEEE, and built his own parliament monitoring system. That just scratches the surface. But recently, Bert wrote about what it takes to build software for the long term. We dig in.