Jared Santo

Oh, that's amazing. I was a Gages customer. Yep. That's awesome. That was. Dot ES, right? Yeah. Dot ES. Yeah. Yeah. Which was against Google Analytics, right? It was like, it was cooler looking.

Oh, that's amazing. I was a Gages customer. Yep. That's awesome. That was. Dot ES, right? Yeah. Dot ES. Yeah. Yeah. Which was against Google Analytics, right? It was like, it was cooler looking.

Yeah. It was worth the, what was the price on that sucker?

Yeah. It was worth the, what was the price on that sucker?

But that one's not sticky because it's so easy to switch, right? You just, you know, new JavaScript snippet and you're out.

But that one's not sticky because it's so easy to switch, right? You just, you know, new JavaScript snippet and you're out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So for our listeners' sake, Dan Benjamin, creator, founder of 5x5.tv, which is a podcast network that we were once on back in the yesteryear before we went to this platform. So when Adam said, I can't imagine running on somebody else's platform, I'm like, well, we have done it before, but we've been free for so long, it's hard for us to imagine going back.

So for our listeners' sake, Dan Benjamin, creator, founder of 5x5.tv, which is a podcast network that we were once on back in the yesteryear before we went to this platform. So when Adam said, I can't imagine running on somebody else's platform, I'm like, well, we have done it before, but we've been free for so long, it's hard for us to imagine going back.

Right. He built Fireside probably out of the code from 5x5, which I think was also a Rails app. And so that was something that he had dogfooded, so to speak, for years and decided to create a hosting platform and created a successful one. In the meantime, there has been a lot more people offering podcast hosting. Yeah, I mean, a lot. And even both in the small and in the large.

Right. He built Fireside probably out of the code from 5x5, which I think was also a Rails app. And so that was something that he had dogfooded, so to speak, for years and decided to create a hosting platform and created a successful one. In the meantime, there has been a lot more people offering podcast hosting. Yeah, I mean, a lot. And even both in the small and in the large.

So you have the big players like Spotify giving it away for free, but then you have, I would say, fireside competitors like Transistor who are killing it in the marketplace. I think Transistor, in terms of features, we are Transistor users through our partner podcasts, which we help produce Big Tent for Grafana, for instance. And we host their Big Tent podcast on Transistor.

So you have the big players like Spotify giving it away for free, but then you have, I would say, fireside competitors like Transistor who are killing it in the marketplace. I think Transistor, in terms of features, we are Transistor users through our partner podcasts, which we help produce Big Tent for Grafana, for instance. And we host their Big Tent podcast on Transistor.

And so I'm familiar with the feature set and the offerings of that platform. And it's just really good. Shout out to... Is it Justin Jackson? Justin Jackson, yeah. Yeah, Justin Jackson. Shout out to Justin Jackson, who's probably been on our shows as well, I think.

And so I'm familiar with the feature set and the offerings of that platform. And it's just really good. Shout out to... Is it Justin Jackson? Justin Jackson, yeah. Yeah, Justin Jackson. Shout out to Justin Jackson, who's probably been on our shows as well, I think.

Okay, so a very long time.

Okay, so a very long time.

He's been out there building Transistor. Started later than Dan, but... actively building that. So when you acquire something like this, of course, I guess with this one, it's your first time. So how do you know what you're going to do? But what's the strategy?

He's been out there building Transistor. Started later than Dan, but... actively building that. So when you acquire something like this, of course, I guess with this one, it's your first time. So how do you know what you're going to do? But what's the strategy?