Jared

There's, I'm sure there's push and pull on the direction and there's probably drama around all the things, but like, that's kind of how community run important things are maintained and continue.

but they don't have the profit motive behind them.

And so I think you're right on track there with turning it into a business.

It's probably a long-term death knell, and here we are.

And had it gone to the OpenJS Foundation versus to GitHub, perhaps that would have killed it off for good, or perhaps it would have given it a better chance.

I don't know.

Obviously, we can't do the parallel histories, but it seems like it's in an okay place.

It continues to exist.

It operates pretty well.

But it's so important now that the stakes have been ratcheted up on the security side.

And there are more things that need to be done.

And there's really not much of incentive besides, like you said, some pending nuclear moment of terrible press and like user backlash and all these things, a huge security breach, perhaps legal action that would actually motivate them to really go after it.

Yeah, they have to have a good reason.

Who knows?

That's what I'm trying to say.

We'll get some action here.

I was going to say, get Nicholas hired on there to come in and write the ship.

Bring him in.

He's got good ideas.

There you go.