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And it's, There's a click provided, so you can still just click on it and just embed in the URL in that case. Or you can just read these six characters and type it back out. And that really solves one particular

And it's, There's a click provided, so you can still just click on it and just embed in the URL in that case. Or you can just read these six characters and type it back out. And that really solves one particular

bummer about magic links is the shareability aspect and the like switching context aspect which a lot of people run into is like hey i'm on my phone i send myself a magic link and i don't have that email app on my phone or there's like all these different weird things or it opens in a app specific browser inside of my email client and so it logs me in inside of gmail app

bummer about magic links is the shareability aspect and the like switching context aspect which a lot of people run into is like hey i'm on my phone i send myself a magic link and i don't have that email app on my phone or there's like all these different weird things or it opens in a app specific browser inside of my email client and so it logs me in inside of gmail app

But I go back to my other app and I'm not signed in. Well, with these one time passcodes, you know, you can solve that by just either copy pasting the six digits or just remembering them for 10 seconds and typing them on the other side. So that seems like a nice evolution.

But I go back to my other app and I'm not signed in. Well, with these one time passcodes, you know, you can solve that by just either copy pasting the six digits or just remembering them for 10 seconds and typing them on the other side. So that seems like a nice evolution.

I prefer, I like that method. It doesn't bother me. You still have the trappings of it getting to them in an abnormal way versus stored there in their password manager or remembered in their brain. Like they have to fetch it every single time. But at least you're not stuck to like it has to be.

I prefer, I like that method. It doesn't bother me. You still have the trappings of it getting to them in an abnormal way versus stored there in their password manager or remembered in their brain. Like they have to fetch it every single time. But at least you're not stuck to like it has to be.

Yeah, absolutely. So you still run into that stuff. Passkeys, however, you do not have to send a passkey to somebody every time they have to sign in because it's a pass and hold, right? You get the passkey, you hold the passkey, and as long as you have the passkey, you're good to go. In fact, they are integrated...

Yeah, absolutely. So you still run into that stuff. Passkeys, however, you do not have to send a passkey to somebody every time they have to sign in because it's a pass and hold, right? You get the passkey, you hold the passkey, and as long as you have the passkey, you're good to go. In fact, they are integrated...

To a certain extent, inside of autofills on phones, whether you're on Android or iOS, if you're using the right first-party passkey stuff, I'm not sure we're going to get into that because this is where passkeys get weird. It's like, who's got the passkey?

To a certain extent, inside of autofills on phones, whether you're on Android or iOS, if you're using the right first-party passkey stuff, I'm not sure we're going to get into that because this is where passkeys get weird. It's like, who's got the passkey?

But as long as it's in there, like on iOS, for instance, if it's stored inside your Apple Passwords app, it will autofill or Face ID or Touch ID just like your password would. And so it's instant once you have it there. But it's also complicated. It's more complicated than that, isn't it, Dan?

But as long as it's in there, like on iOS, for instance, if it's stored inside your Apple Passwords app, it will autofill or Face ID or Touch ID just like your password would. And so it's instant once you have it there. But it's also complicated. It's more complicated than that, isn't it, Dan?

And yet people don't seem to like them for some reason. So I have had nothing but positive experience with pass keys as an end user. And I should say that my, my stack is basically Apple stack. I want an iOS and Mac OS, and I use the passwords. It's now its own app.

And yet people don't seem to like them for some reason. So I have had nothing but positive experience with pass keys as an end user. And I should say that my, my stack is basically Apple stack. I want an iOS and Mac OS, and I use the passwords. It's now its own app.

It used to be Keychain and inside the settings of the iOS stuff, but it will handle both your passwords and your passkeys for your domains. and it will even allow you now. I think this is new last year to share those with your family, which has been in my experience, seamless as well. I can share a past word. I can share a past key.

It used to be Keychain and inside the settings of the iOS stuff, but it will handle both your passwords and your passkeys for your domains. and it will even allow you now. I think this is new last year to share those with your family, which has been in my experience, seamless as well. I can share a past word. I can share a past key.

I can create little subgroups in my family, like just my wife and I, or my kids and us like, and I can share them there. And I have to say, I've been just tickled with how well that's gone, but I think I'm very rare in this because a lot of people are just not happy with the way things are going. And Adam, you're not sold on past keys. So what's been your experience?

I can create little subgroups in my family, like just my wife and I, or my kids and us like, and I can share them there. And I have to say, I've been just tickled with how well that's gone, but I think I'm very rare in this because a lot of people are just not happy with the way things are going. And Adam, you're not sold on past keys. So what's been your experience?