Jasmine Sun

And what do people hear?

What do they mean by transitional friction?

What they do mean is that if you are a current worker, not somebody 50 years in the future,

If you work as an illustrator or a copywriter or a young software engineer, you are kind of screwed.

And so even in Sam's new sort of approach to this, he's still admitting that a lot of people working right now are going to be screwed over on the way to the utopia.

And so when people hear that, they're like, man, I don't want to be screwed over.

Yeah, I mean, so the reason I wrote this New York Times opinion piece was in large part that I felt like people were saying things behind closed doors.

that they were not willing to say on the record.

And I felt like because I had at least heard some of these conversations and I was aware of the sentiment, I could piece it together and sort of lay out a case with publicly available information and a couple anonymous quotes as to what people really expected.

And even when I was reporting the article, I noticed this happen where there might be a person who I talked to just as part of my normal life living in San Francisco.

We just chat about AI and they'd say something like, yeah, I think the median person is screwed.

I don't know what I would do if I was 17 and I didn't have a lot of money.

I don't think I could go to college.

I have no idea.

And then if I'd ask that person,

hey, would you mind doing this interview for the piece?

I'm trying to make a case for managing disruption better.

That same person would say, sure, I'll do the interview.

But then on the interview, they'd focus on stuff like, well, I think AI can help people start a lot of small businesses.

They would be super reluctant to say any of the things that they had said maybe an hour or a day before to me, the same person.