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Jason Bordoff

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
457 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And they were looking at places like Iraq and Libya and going back to some of these geopolitically risky places.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And I suspect people might be rethinking a little bit of those plans now, or at least assigning a bigger kind of geopolitical risk premium to those investments.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

What about Russia?

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

You know, I think we are showing in this conflict the limits of the willingness of the American people, the American government, to bear pain in energy markets, pain at the pump to pursue foreign policy objectives.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

That has always been the case.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

In 2022, after Russia invaded Ukraine, we did not use every tool we had in our toolkit to put pressure on Putin.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

We had some efforts to deprive it of some oil revenue, but we did not impose full sanctions to try to prevent Russia from selling all of its oil to the global market because Russia just exports too much.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And you would have sent oil prices through the roof for all of us if we had tried to do that.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

I worked in the Obama White House when the original sanctions were put on Iran.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And the big question was, how do you take Iran's oil off the market?

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

That was on one and a half, two million barrels a day.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

and not send oil prices skyrocketing in the process?

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

How do you impose the pain on them but not impose it on us?

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And so we've always been reluctant, and Iran is realizing that now.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

They know that.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

That's why they're doing what they're doing in the Strait of Hormuz.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

Because we're part of an interconnected global oil market, our options are limited to pursue foreign policy objectives targeted at big oil-producing states if the result of that is you send oil prices through the roof and impose pain on ourselves in the process.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

So because oil prices are going up so much, the administration is looking to pull every lever it can to find some relief.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And one of the sources of relief is Russia has produced a lot of oil that is sitting floating on the water, so to speak.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

It's in tankers looking for a buyer.