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Jason Bordoff

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
457 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

But again, it doesn't take that much to throw the entire global energy market into chaos.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And that's what they're doing.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

So they're not just hitting neighbors, although the neighbors are being harmed.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

Iraq, some other countries, if you run out of places to store the daily production of oil that you have and you can't get it into market and put it on a ship to sell it somewhere, you have to shut in production.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

You just have to stop producing.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And we've seen about seven, eight, nine million barrels a day of oil globally just shut in where people say we're going to stop producing.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

So that hurts those countries.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

But we are in a global oil market.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

If there's a disruption halfway around the world, you take one, two, 10 million barrels off, the global price of oil goes up.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And as we are seeing in the United States, for everyone listening who goes to fill up at the pump, the price of the pump is set by the global price of oil, even though the United States is now a huge net exporter and the largest producer in the world.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

So the pain Iran is inflicting is global in scope because they can affect the global energy market.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And that's true for natural gas as well, which particularly hurts Europe and Asia because that's where those supplies go.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

Why?

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

Well, I can't speak to what kind of planning went on, obviously, in the Trump administration before this started.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

You do have a sense that they thought this would be over much more quickly.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

Other recent conflicts have been.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

We woke up on a Saturday morning and found out we removed the leader of Venezuela, and that seemed to be over a few days later.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

There was conflict in the Middle East last year, the 12-day war between Israel and Iran, and it was only 12 days.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

So there may have been excessive optimism that things would change in Iran quite quickly, whatever the objective of this action is, regime change or something else.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And the other thing that I think you want to do in the situation like you're describing, because you're right, closing the Strait of Hormuz is the mother of all nightmare scenarios for global energy markets, not to mention for other military and defense markets.