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Jason Bordoff

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457 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

That's gas that can be traded more easily.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And prices went through the roof.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And like markets are supposed to do, the market allocated the supply to the people who could pay for it.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

So those flows went to Europe and Europe paid a premium for it.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And that meant that coal prices went up because coal was the substitute for the gas that would have otherwise gone to Asia.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And so a country like China used more coal instead.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

But if you were a lower to middle income country like Pakistan, Bangladesh, you struggle to afford any energy at all.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And they really did start to see significant economic impacts to shut down economic activity, to not be able to get around.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

We're seeing in Pakistan now a huge cricket tournament and they're telling people to watch on television rather than go in person.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

India, oil spending is about 3% of GDP.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

Thailand, it's about 5%.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

Fossil fuels overall in Thailand are 7%.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

These are very large shares of the economy that are spent on fossil fuels, and nearly all of which is imported.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And these are countries that don't have the fiscal space to pay more.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And we haven't, again, even talked about the fact that the Strait of Hormuz is a critical choke point for fertilizer.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And if fertilizer has trouble getting to the market, you're going to see potential impacts on food and food prices.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

And that puts enormous economic strain on countries that are already struggling to afford these essential products in the first place.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

Well, it would take time.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

So, you know, there's not many countries, Saudi Arabia is really the only one, maybe a few others, that hold so-called spare capacity.

The Ezra Klein Show
How Bad Could the Iran Oil Crisis Get?

They have invested and spent extra money so that in an emergency, they can quickly bring oil to the market that they otherwise could produce, but they hold it back in case the market needs it.