Jason Calacanis
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And I think BasePower, Brad, you're an investor in it.
They're going to do the same thing.
Tesla has that same Elon variable in it as well, which is people value his companies at, I would say, two times market, three times market, four times market because of the future pipeline.
And they devalue Apple because they don't have somebody like Elon or Steve Jobs there who is giving them the future.
I don't think it's devalued.
Or properly valued if you don't have an Elon and you have somebody like, I think that's exactly what it is.
We talked about this last week, but explain why you think it's different.
There is no good left.
That was literally the exact point I was making when you cut me off.
If you look, Tim Cook's greatest innovation... Tim Cook's greatest innovation, before you cut me off, was Apple TV.
Not even the hardware product.
It was just spending money and making a Netflix knockoff.
There's been no other product in... Hold on, let me finish again before you interrupt me making my point.
Oh, you don't like that?
Oh, you don't like being interrupted?
Oh, no.
Oh, yeah.
Well, okay.
Okay, go back to model.
If you look at their track record, and I think this is why we had a change there is, they have not done anything innovative.