Jason Calacanis

There's a lot of breadcrumbs leading here.

I think people who want this are being a little bit circumspect.

They don't feel

They're quite there in terms of being able to justify it yet.

Sure.

You look at a lot of the rhetoric around how models need to have guardrails and that with open source models, the guardrails can be removed and therefore they're dangerous.

You see this rhetoric already in anthropics blog posts.

So, you know, any threat...

that they described that kind of go out of their way to take that shot at open source models.

You saw it with respect to cyber, for example, or with respect to bio threats, things like that.

I mean, I've seen that type of language repeatedly that open models lack guardrails or the guardrails can be taken off and therefore it's a problem.

And I think, again, they're trying to create ideas or put predicate facts in the public record to justify an action later on.

And I think it's just a matter of time before they feel like they're at a position where maybe they can push for that type of ban directly.

They're not quite there yet.

Oh, they'll still use it.

Sure.

They're going to leapfrog us.

Sure, you'll put the U.S.

on an island.

Well, first of all, as we all know, what does it mean to ban an open-weight model?