Jason Clancy

And I actually met...

one of his victims, who would be the oldest sort of person.

Now, he did make a statement to the commission.

But yeah, Bill Kinney, I think, was about 17 at the time.

He was about eight or nine.

There was suspicion about him in the city and there was whispers.

I know that now, but not as a, you know, as a young boy or whatever.

Yeah.

But yeah, I mean, there was other children, children's parents warning him, warning their kids never to be near him, stay away from him if you ever see him, you know.

No, not at all, no, no.

So actually what happened was I was playing football every Sunday morning for about six months at this stage.

He was the nicest person up there, you know, and always paid you attention or whatever.

Little did I know I was being groomed or whatever.

And it came to Halloween night, so I would have been just 14 Halloween night.

And he was an avid Man United supporter.

We were avid Liverpool supporters and Liverpool beat Man United.

And on Halloween night, I had put on his car, Liverpool 3, Man United 0 or something, you know, just as a joke or whatever it was.

But he said to me, oh, he said, I'm going to get you for that.

And I didn't know.

But about a week later, he summoned me up to his house.