Jason Friedberg

Always nice, I'm guessing, if they IPO.

But did you create potentially, and this was the criticism of it, an ultimate competitor to Microsoft?

And how do you think about that?

And how can Microsoft, which missed Steve Ballmer's biggest regret, missing the mobile revolution, how can you not have a Gemini?

an XAI, a Claude, that is your own?

Or in your mind, do you have that because you have the source code of OpenAI?

Am I right to read into that then that you're bullish on the open source models and think large language models will largely be commoditized and that's not where the value will accrue?

or that it could ever be open source.

That was mind-blowing.

secretly, and you can say it here since we're on all in, working on an LLM to exist on the Windows desktop, because that, you are.

Well, you started at Sun, which was the original $5,000, $10,000 workstation.

Do you see a time where you'll...

meeting with your customers here and advocating a $10,000, $20,000 desktop machine that has an LLM and the hardware chipset?

And we're in a very interesting moment.

Empowering an existing employee with these tools is so much easier than hiring

mentoring and bringing up the next generation.

So it feels like we're in a little bit of an indigestion moment.

At Microsoft, do you think, who's gonna have my job in 30 or 40 years if the company stays the same size?

Because given your technology first approach, there's really no reason to ever add another Microsoft employee at the pace this is going.

And you haven't for four years, so