Jason Ingber

And so you're just not going to win.

So I wasn't going to win.

There was tons of close – and every close call, I look back and I think, why didn't you –

Why didn't you stop?

You're just a fucking idiot.

That was such a – that was such an – should have been such an eye-opening experience or close call or whatever and you didn't.

And the other thing is I think I aged out of it.

I think I got to a point where when you're young, you're invincible and you think everything's possible and you can withstand any storm and you're just – that's why like 18-year-old boys make great soldiers and 45-year-old men don't because 45-year-old men hear their orders and go –

I don't know about that.

That seems like that could go bad.

And 18-year-olds are like, we can do it.

Oh, yeah.

A lot of the doctors I saw – there was a lot of doctors from like pill mills and –

And this is funny because they would talk about like the first time they went in and sat down with like a prosecutor and their lawyer where literally – and there's lawyers.

If you go on YouTube and stuff and talk to some of these federal prosecutors and stuff, they're like – typically when you walk into an interrogation room with –

with a defendant, they're like, right away, you're like, okay, where did you get the drugs?

Or, hey, when did you decide to rob the bank?

How long did you watch it?

He said, we spend the first 30 minutes to an hour with the doctors just trying to convince them they've committed a crime because they genuinely are like, and I have to agree.

Like, I'd say that 90% of the doctors that I met that had prescribed opiates