Jason Ingber

And he's like, yeah, so I quit Whole Foods and went all in on this.

And his platforms, it's actually like really doing well.

He's very good at just talking in front of the camera.

And Johnny Mitchell is kind of the same way.

Johnny Mitchell is a guy who's got a platform.

It's 1.4 million.

I just did his podcast, and it's coming out on Sunday.

And he's been here before.

I've actually been on his show before, but we've interviewed him.

And I think he's probably, I'd have to say he's the biggest true crime.

He focuses more on like drug smuggling because that's his- That's his trade.

Yeah, that's what he went to prison for.

So that's kind of it.

That and kind of the Mexican cartel, that sort of thing.

He started off in California and he blew up very quick, faster than anybody.

Because he's also a comedian, which he learned – he started doing while he was incarcerated.

Like that's pretty interesting.

Got out, became a comedian, full-time comedian, but he's friends with all these kind of comedians.

So most of these comedians are one or two phone calls away.

So he's able – was able to get himself on these very big platforms.