Jason Ingber

And I'm trying to tell Ross, like, I can ask you questions and you can email him and send it back.

And I'm trying to come up with a way to communicate.

I can send stuff to his sister.

And so what ends up happening is Ross is like, listen, and I had sent Ross a book, which was called a book I wrote called Stranger Danger.

And in Stranger Danger, the name of the protagonist is Christopher Doyle, the same guy I was in line with when he pointed out Deverelli.

And Christopher Doyle is a white trash entrepreneur that eventually he ends up renting out –

a bunch of double wides and stuff.

He ends up building all of these complexes to house the nation's offenders.

And it's just a really depraved, disgusting, sat-satiric,

fiction book filled with all kinds of horrific, funny, sexual deviant stories, everything.

And eventually Doyle ends up being framed for being a defender and goes to prison.

But there's these elements that are similar to Deverelli's story where Doyle and his mother have an adversarial relationship.

There's all these things.

And so Ross suggests that

Or I suggest, one of us, I'm like, I could take some of the stories from this book and stick it in Deverelli's because there are some similarities.

I said, that would fill up 10,000, 20,000 words.

Like I could fill up a lot of words.

You only need like 80,000 words.

Really only need 40 or 50 now.

But back then, let's say 70,000, 80,000 words for a book.