Jason Lampkin

At the same time, I have to tell you, when I talk to companies like this, and I've done like several of them recently for the start of the year, I feel like people are just blinking at the camera.

Like, they joined these companies to not work.

They joined these companies so that I had to argue with one of these companies that I'm just friends with.

You know, they didn't want to get a big release out this year.

There was a lot going on to get a big release out this year.

You're going to get destroyed by the competition.

So on the one hand, you can do it, but you better be, in my opinion, you better be this...

CO on a mission and reboot the company and find those folks.

But realize 90% of your folks, if you're not careful, are just going to be blinking at the camera.

We need to slip that release.

Well, these next quarters look soft, actually, Harry, but Q4 is looking great at the end of the year.

This year, I know Q1 and Q2 are going to be down, but we'll make it all up in December.

No.

And of course, you're right.

The reality is even at the best, 80% of folks are not contributing significant value mathematically.

But you've got to have these epic leaders in ICs to compete today.

That's true.

You've got to have a great leader.

It's so competitive.

You better find this founder that can truly bring this talent in in a magical way.