Jason Mantzoukas

Why does Himmel have statues everywhere?

And it's this idea of like, make people's lives better, make people's lives easier, and they will remember you.

You know, like that is your legacy is to have helped these people not to have slain the dragon or whatever.

That's great.

But, you know, like it's it's just, oh, boy, do I love this.

Who is good and who is bad.

Yeah.

Really complex.

Yeah.

And what's really interesting, and neither of you have gotten there yet, and this is not a spoiler, I don't think, but the second half of season one is, in its entirety, a test.

It is they are being they have to achieve a certain grade of witchcraft, of mastery over magic, which Freerun has above and beyond.

But and so what you're doing is like they're just building out the world and then giving you really all these unique and fun puzzles to get and get them involved.

Martin being like, what's Aragorn's tax policy?

You know what I mean?

Or whatever.

And that's what this is.

Beyond Journey's End is the title of the show.

Once the big story's over, what next?

Yeah.

And taking the time.