Jason Meno

Right.

Right.

Yeah. And I did run some analysis that I'll talk about here in a bit of what the difference was between these two groups, because we did gather even the people who did drop out. They did provide some initial information that that's quite useful. So so at the very start of this, when you're when you're doing a meditation experiment, one of your biggest questions is the placebo effect.

Yeah. And I did run some analysis that I'll talk about here in a bit of what the difference was between these two groups, because we did gather even the people who did drop out. They did provide some initial information that that's quite useful. So so at the very start of this, when you're when you're doing a meditation experiment, one of your biggest questions is the placebo effect.

Like, is meditation a placebo? Is it just essentially you think meditation is going to help you? Therefore, it does. And another way to think about it is you could think of it as the expectation effect. What expectations do you have about meditation and what do you think is going to happen to you while doing this?

Like, is meditation a placebo? Is it just essentially you think meditation is going to help you? Therefore, it does. And another way to think about it is you could think of it as the expectation effect. What expectations do you have about meditation and what do you think is going to happen to you while doing this?

Because not only can you have the placebo effect, but in meditation, there's also a problem with the nocebo effect where you actually think meditation might hurt you or give you a panic attack or something bad might happen to you if you meditate. And that can result in some unpleasant side effects as well. So here's what I did at the start.

Because not only can you have the placebo effect, but in meditation, there's also a problem with the nocebo effect where you actually think meditation might hurt you or give you a panic attack or something bad might happen to you if you meditate. And that can result in some unpleasant side effects as well. So here's what I did at the start.

I created a little introductory lesson where I just explained what this was going to do, that they were going to sit down for an hour and going to try these five different meditations. And the first set of questions I asked them were really just, I wanted to understand how familiar they were with David, how familiar they were with meditation, and what they expected to happen in this.

I created a little introductory lesson where I just explained what this was going to do, that they were going to sit down for an hour and going to try these five different meditations. And the first set of questions I asked them were really just, I wanted to understand how familiar they were with David, how familiar they were with meditation, and what they expected to happen in this.

So I'll read off some numbers here so you can get an idea of what people thought about this process. So for each one of these questions, I'll tell you what the finishers, the people who actually finished the meditations, what they thought and what the people who didn't finish thought.

So I'll read off some numbers here so you can get an idea of what people thought about this process. So for each one of these questions, I'll tell you what the finishers, the people who actually finished the meditations, what they thought and what the people who didn't finish thought.

So both groups, finishers and non-finishers, their familiarity with David, I just ask them, like, how familiar are you with Dr. David Burns and his work? From zero to 100, all of these questions I ask are going to be from zero, not at all, to 100, like 100%. So with how familiar are you with David, the average score was 80 for both groups. So very, very familiar, very much so.

So both groups, finishers and non-finishers, their familiarity with David, I just ask them, like, how familiar are you with Dr. David Burns and his work? From zero to 100, all of these questions I ask are going to be from zero, not at all, to 100, like 100%. So with how familiar are you with David, the average score was 80 for both groups. So very, very familiar, very much so.

And then I asked, how familiar are you with meditation and mindfulness? And that number for both groups was about the same, 69. So, you know, quite a bit, quite, quite familiar, but not super duper familiar. Yeah. The next question I asked was, do you think how much do you believe that meditation will make you feel better? So this is the expectation effect that we're asking here.

And then I asked, how familiar are you with meditation and mindfulness? And that number for both groups was about the same, 69. So, you know, quite a bit, quite, quite familiar, but not super duper familiar. Yeah. The next question I asked was, do you think how much do you believe that meditation will make you feel better? So this is the expectation effect that we're asking here.

One of the expectation effects. Do you think meditation will make you feel better? How much do you believe that it will? The people who finished, they started off believing at 62 percent. So 60 percent, 62 percent, they thought it was going to make them feel better. And the people who didn't finish was 58%.

One of the expectation effects. Do you think meditation will make you feel better? How much do you believe that it will? The people who finished, they started off believing at 62 percent. So 60 percent, 62 percent, they thought it was going to make them feel better. And the people who didn't finish was 58%.

So definitely the people who didn't finish, they did not think that meditation was going to make them feel as good. But both groups were over 50%. They still believed that it was going to have some effect.

So definitely the people who didn't finish, they did not think that meditation was going to make them feel as good. But both groups were over 50%. They still believed that it was going to have some effect.