Jason Meno
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard Oct 2024
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Finishers were 8% that meditation would make them feel worse. and non-finishers were 13%. So both groups are low, but clearly the people who did not finish the meditations, they thought that it would make them feel worse. Or it was higher.
Yeah, some of them dropped out. They did like one meditation or two meditations and dropped out. So we've got all that data. Yeah.
The last expectation question was, how much do you believe that meditation will be painful or difficult? And the people who finished, they believed it 11% that it would be painful or difficult. Really? And the non-finishers... 11% did you say? Uh-huh, 11% for the people who finished. And the people who didn't finish, they believed 25% that it would be painful or difficult. So almost over double.
So that's a pretty big jump there.
Yeah, it's a very clear signal that the people who didn't finish believed from the get-go that they were going to have a bad time, essentially.
Yeah, non-finishers' familiarity with meditation was 68%. So that's pretty high. Almost the same, yeah.
For familiarity with meditation?
Well, the numbers here are, it's a scale of belief from 0 to 100. Mm-hmm. So the 11% is... These are means. Yeah, these are means. So it's the average belief of the groups are 11% and 25% that it would be painful or difficult.
It is, yeah. So my only guess at the moment, we'd have to actually reach out and talk to these people to see what they think, but... My thought is that both are pretty much the same familiarity with meditation. And I'm guessing that the people who are finishers that did not drop out, they probably like meditation. They probably think it's helpful and that it's not too hard for them.
And the non-finishers, although they have the same familiarity and experience of trying meditation, they might have had some worse experiences in the past. Like every time they meditate, they don't find it very rewarding or they find it difficult and painful. So to me, that's how I am making sense of it at the moment. Yeah.
They both have the same experience, but those experiences have been more positive for the finishers and more negative for the non-finishers.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. These expectation questions, I think like, yeah, what was your experience like with therapy in the past? You know, because I imagine that's probably going to determine whether or not you're kind of motivated and willing to try again. So, yeah. So next pieces of data, we start getting into some now. Now we're going to start getting into the actual feelings and thoughts.
So in the introduction section, after asking them all these questions about, you know, how familiar are you with David and meditation? And what do you think meditation is going to be? Is it going to be helpful? Is it going to do nothing? Is it going to hurt? So after asking those questions, I then ask them to come up with a negative thought.
And I originally did this as kind of a control because I came into this experiment actually thinking that my hypothesis was the feelings ratings are probably going to change. Like people who have good experiences with meditation, it'll probably improve their mood a little bit. But I don't expect the thought beliefs to change. Like if you have the thought, I'm a loser or I'm
Um, something horrible is going to happen to me in the future. If you have those kinds of negative thoughts, I wouldn't expect that sitting down to meditate, just focusing on your breath or watching your body would change your belief in that. Like to me that I don't expect that to happen, but we'll see what happens in the data.
So, so I originally, I asked them to grab a negative thought that they're having. And I asked them, how much do you believe that thought and how upsetting is it? Uh, With the goal of this being kind of one of my control mechanisms, that was my goal here to see like would this ideally that wouldn't change. So let me see if I'm pretty sure I have that data here, too.
So the negative thoughts that they came up with the. Average belief in the negative thoughts, which it could be any negative thought. They were free to come up with any thought they wanted, you know, so there was no limit. But the belief that they rated it from zero to 100, the finishers, their belief in their negative thought was an average of 76%. And the non-finishers was 74%.
So a little lower for the non-finishers. But to me, that shouldn't be too big of a deal.
And then the upsetness, again, for each thought, I ask them, how upsetting is this negative thought to you? So if you have the thought, I'm a loser, you might believe it 75%. And now how upsetting is that thought? And the average for finishers was 83%. And 79% for the non-finishers. So pretty similar. Okay. So we got some good negative thoughts.
And then I get their negative feelings. So I had them. We in the app, we are using seven different sliders of feelings. I think the first section is sad, down, unhappy. Then the second section is anxious, worried, panicky. Okay. And then in guilt and inferiority, anger, we have seven different emotions we calculate on. And I have all the data if we want to explore it more in detail here in a bit.
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