Jason Meno
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first heard Oct 2024
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And after each of these meditations, I'm having them re-rate their belief in their negative thoughts and feelings.
After each meditation, yeah.
That's right, yeah. So they'll do the body scan meditation one, then they'll rate their belief in the thought and their feelings again. And then they'll do the counting meditation to rate their belief in the thought, rate their negative feelings again. So that's how we went through each one of these.
Yes, that's right. And then meditation four was a Vipassana meditation where it's just you're paying attention to the breath and your thinking and the feelings of your body. And I think that one specifically I did a noting Vipassana where you mentally note what you're experiencing. So if you notice yourself thinking, then you'll say to yourself, thinking, thinking.
If you notice that you're breathing, then you'll think to yourself, breathing, breathing, breathing. If you hear a sound, you'll think to yourself, hearing, hearing. So that's how that meditation worked. And then the last meditation, which I kind of threw in as a curveball. Originally, I tried it as a control mechanism.
But the last meditation is called the do nothing meditation, which that's literally what the meditation has you do. Like that's the instructions. Like it starts out by just saying, OK, the instructions are do nothing meditation. OK, get to it. Do nothing. That's that's that's the meditation. And I mean, it is considered a real meditation.
Like I think of the Zen tradition, it's or one of the Zen schools. It's called Shinkantaza is the name of that. But yeah, I like that meditation. But but you're not doing anything. So it's like that's like the perfect meditation. Like how would that change your thoughts and feelings? You literally do nothing. You just sit there. for 10 minutes. And so that was the that was the last meditation.
So and then at the end, of course, after all of this, I get some of their final comments and what they thought and how this was for them and try to understand if they did experience some changes. Why did they think that happened? And what's what's going on? So let's look at that data. Let's see what exactly happened with the meditations.
It's called like a non-dual meditation. Yeah. It's completely letting go. Yeah, I tried alternating them between essentially what I would call like very relaxing type meditations versus concentration, intense, like demanding meditations. So, yeah. So here's the numbers. The negative feelings, these are averages. They started off at 37.
So it really, the first meditation basically took the number down, and then it just didn't do anything else. It just kind of evened out. Now, this is, oh, and so again, along with this is the expectation. So they went from a 37 down to about a 25 at the end. They expected their feelings to be about 25. Right. Almost like what we saw in our experiment. Yeah.
So their expectation of what they thought would happen to their negative feelings is exactly what happened. So that's now the question is, is OK. Does that mean if they expected it to be lower, would have been lower? I did do an R squared just like the expectation versus the actual. And it was a 56 percent, a point five six R squared value.
Yeah, with least squares.
Yeah, so definitely positive correlation, but not as strong as you might expect. But we're also the hard part about doing these statistics is that we're not working with normalized distributed data. These people were all over the place in their expectations and beliefs and starting beliefs and ending beliefs.
It really you I had to look at the histograms of this data to look at the actual shape of what was happening. And I'll just describe that the negative feelings basically all was they were all clustered up closer towards the mid rain. Actually, do I have that here? I'm pretty sure I do. That's the thought belief. Let me get this image in front of me.
So the negative feelings, they all started out actually pretty flat across the board. So I think our average was around 37 for this group, but that's just the average. In reality, there were people with 10s, 20s, 30s, 40s, 60s, 70s, 80s. They were kind of all across the board with their negative feelings at the start.
And what I notice here visually is right after meditation one, there's a big squish on the people who had high feelings ratings. And there's this big, huge, giant jump up in the lower negative feelings. So people's feelings are suddenly shifting from high feelings to lower feelings immediately after meditation one.
Let me. So the numbers I just read to you a minute ago were the negative feelings.
No, I can give that next.
Yeah, thank you. Actually, I guess I'll read off the, so what I'll do is I'll go through, we just went through the negative feelings. I'll go through the positive feelings, the thought belief, and the thought upsetness. Those are our four.
Yeah. Okay. So for positive feelings, the initial was about 49%. And the changes went to, from 49, it popped up to 55, 54, 55, 53, 54. So a similar pattern happened. We basically, the first meditation, they popped from 49 up to 55, and then it just stayed kind of flat. The rest of the meditations, at least the averages, the averages stayed consistent.
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