Jason Moser

I want to be careful here, because I think Cook was a great CEO, regardless of circumstances.

I don't want to play otherwise.

But the lesson for me here is, a lot of being a great CEO is being the right person at the right time.

When Steve Jobs was the CEO, especially when he came out,

It was about experimentation.

It was about taking big bets.

It was about defining products and introducing them.

The famous one more thing, where this was a company that was not just throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what stick, but it was one that we have got to try new things.

By the time Cook got into the role, it was about stability.

It was about maintainings.

We've seen that.

How many years have we talked about, there's going to be an Apple car, there's going to be an Apple TV, because as investors, we were conditioned for jobs and the one big thing.

I think I'm glad those things didn't come.

I think it's funny because I think investors still are waiting for that, like what's next from Apple.

But really, Jobs built something amazing by taking huge risks,

Cook sustained and built off of what Jobs did by not taking these big risks and not saying, yeah, what the heck, let's do a car.

And I think that there's a lot of takeaways there when we kind of assess management at a lot of different companies.

You want someone really smart, but you also just want someone who is the right person for the task at hand.

Yeah, I'm glad you went there because that's what fascinates me.

For all we just said about the right person for the right job, Ternus looks more than qualified, but he is a product guy, right?