Jason

monetize them?

And maybe do you think that's a good strategy for correcting the abuse?

Yeah, he came out and said it.

He said, we have to look at it, right?

He explicitly said it.

Yeah, I think this is part of the one of the reasons I love having you on the program, Roe, is you take a very first principled and a logical, nonpartisan approach to this.

You just gave Trump his flowers for, hey, good job closing the border.

Good job identifying that 80 percent of Americans agree with that.

I'm curious what's going on inside the Democratic Party.

where a large number of people can't seem to give Trump any credit, right, for this basic win, and then challenge him and say, hey, but this is where we have to go.

So how does the Democratic Party look at you, your contemporaries, when you're a moderate, when you try to tone things down, when you try to take a first principle, logical approach to these issues?

How

You had a really great moment on a podcast I heard you on.

I can't remember which one, but you were saying, I wonder if comedy is the precursor now.

Being funny, being witty on programs is like the precursor to running for president.

But let's talk about, I think maybe an interesting place to go would be how the technology industry, how to win that back on the democratic side.

You had...

essentially the entire industry.

A monopoly.

Yeah, a monopoly.