Jason

I think it was before your time, the Jimmy Kimmel, Charlie Kerfluffle.

But even that, it seemed, David, President Trump and the administration and Brendan Carr, friend of the pod, who's been on a couple times, kind of rethought that one, yeah?

Well, Jimmy Kimmel was back in the air within, was it like two or three nights?

So, yeah, I mean, there's no real censorship there.

In that case, it was the network affiliates who were upset because Jimmy Kimmel said something untrue and malicious and outrageous.

So, in any event, the system kind of worked itself out.

There was no, like, government censorship there.

Brendan probably shouldn't have said what he said, in my estimation.

Anyway, in any event, there was no government censorship.

That's the bottom line.

Yeah, I think it is disturbing that countries that we see as our closest allies that share similar values that are part of the same Western culture and history are moving in this direction of more and more censorship.

is disturbing, and I'm glad to see that under President Trump, the Department of State is pushing back on this.

I think, Sarah, the work that you're doing and Secretary Rubio, extremely important.

So I think you're making a huge difference.

I think we have to use the tools that we have, whether they're tools on trade or the denial of visas or expressing condemnation, to push back on this as we will, as we can.

Let's talk about some of the new issues.

uh ai uh it was pretty obvious but 18 months ago when you saw a deep fake it just didn't pass the uncanny valley uh grok images uh nano banana from our friends at google i mean these things now if you're if you're flipping by very quickly

you could make a mistake this also uh in terms of censorship we have significant protections in the united states for say cartoonists as do the french and they're mocking public figures how is it different when you're mocking public figures uh presidents prime ministers cabinet members

but the public can't tell?

Because this is new.