Jason

Because it relies on norms, right?

And ever since Bill Clinton, you know, did some, you know, friends and then obviously Biden did his son and then Trump's doing his son.

you know, folks, it feels like now this is just a get out of jail card.

You come into an administration and then everybody from Fauci to, you know, Hunter Biden, everybody else is just going to get a pardon on the way out.

I mean, it's on the way.

Yes, it's in the first year.

It's not on the last day, even.

It's like an ongoing tool here.

We had CZ, who was a crypto person who got pardoned, and Trump didn't even know who he was.

He was just like, I heard he's a good guy.

Yeah, the pardons definitely are super troubling.

How do you deal with the family members and the kids enriching themselves?

Obviously, nothing has been done by a court or an investigation into Trump's kids at this point.

So we just want to be clear about that.

You know, we had Hunter Biden,

getting a ridiculous million dollar board seat i've never seen anybody get paid a million dollars to be on a board that was obviously corrupt in some way or somebody trying to curry favor doesn't mean the president biden was but it definitely was corruption there

How do you deal with kids of, and this has been going on for a while, these kind of allegations.

If we can't rely on honor and norms, is there another proposal here that the kids of, you know, people in office can't make money, your kids can't make money.

If I was running for office, my kids couldn't make money in the free market.

How do you, is there any kind of solution you can think of?