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Appearances
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Try going to town to sneak out of your house to go to the grocery store and running into the judge at Kroger's. So about 30 minutes go by, and I call him. He doesn't answer. And then about another 10 minutes go by, and he calls me back, and he's like, hey, man, I wouldn't park down there at that gas station where you met me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
But in the process of that, they found out that the guy that I was getting weed from, his father-in-law was actually one of the biggest drug dealers in our county.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
and that's who he this kid that i was getting a weed from that's who he was getting it from was his father and so once they heard that they then wanted me to also get that guy on fucking wire and i'd never even met this man you know what i mean like i have no idea yeah how do you even get to that guy
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Right, so that I have to basically start hanging out with the guy that I got the weed from, make friends with him, to the point where I was buying enough, where he finally took me straight to the fucking source, and then I was able to go there a couple times, and then, yeah, and then they ended up... Go ahead.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So, it wasn't like a small little thing. Listen, dude, for you kids out there that watch the show The Wire on HBO or anything like that, man, listen, this is early 2000s. This is fucking analog technology, okay? This thing, I kid you not, was the size of this cigarette pack right here, okay? Like, it was half the size of this. And basically, that's what it was.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
It was a soft pack of Marlboro Light cigarettes, 100s. And they had pulled all the cigarettes out of the pack, stuck this thing in, and pushed it off to the side, and then filled the pack back up with cigarettes. And like, that was it. So then they would have a truck, you know, like, which was so cliche, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Like any movie you've ever seen, it was like an old fucking Chevy panel van that they worked out of, you know what I mean? And, uh, you can picture the guys inside with the microphone. Yes. Yeah. And it was wheels. Oh yeah. They check levels and all of that shit, dude. They, it was so stupid.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah, sure. So basically, I'm from Ohio. You know, I was born in Ohio. I've been here my whole life. I mean, I've been lucky and gotten to travel around, but I was born here. So I was born just, you know, in 1980. So 80s kid, you know what I mean? I'm 42 now. So, you know, my parents, I think, had been married like 10 years when they had me. And then, you know, they got divorced.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And, um, so, you know, you had to have this cigarette pack on you and I'll never forget one time, one of the guys, cause I smoke obviously, but I didn't have my own cigarettes. I'd left them in the car or something. And I went in to get some weed and the guy asked me for a cigarette. I couldn't imagine how fucking stale and old these Marlboro Lights were.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And I remember pulling this pack out and being like, oh God, please don't let this guy see inside this fucking pack. And like gave him one of these and he smoked it. He never said a word. I thought that could not have fucking tasted good though. Like how old is this Marlboro? You know what I mean? Like it was dust at that point. He just, you know. So I did everything I was supposed to do. And...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
you know thankfully josh and i actually stayed really good friends and because of him he actually really looked out for me and made sure that like, I never had to go to court. I never had to testify anything like that. Like, cause again, like he really kind of went to bat for me with the higher ups in the police department and shit like that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Um, and so they basically had got all the information they needed. I had this guy on wire and they, yeah, they sent the fucking team out and kicked this fucking guy doors in. and found all kinds of shit. Guns, all kinds of shit. It was a big fucking deal. Yeah. Oh, he went away. Yeah, they absolutely, yeah, he fucking went away. Yeah. Like how, what do you, went away like five years or?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
That I don't know how many years he got, but I remember them. Cause I tried at that point, all I wanted to do was forget about it. Like I did what I was supposed to do. I was a fucking kid, bro. Like I don't want to know any more about it. You know what I mean? Keep me out of it. And, uh, but I read to them, he must've pled guilty. Like he didn't go to trial. You didn't have to testify.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
No, no, he didn't. No, he, yeah, he played, he, whatever they, uh, offer they gave him or whatever he pleaded, he pled out. So whatever that was, um, I don't know. You know, they mentioned that he definitely went away. I have no idea how many years it was. So, okay. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I mean, it sounds good. It sounds really good. You know, and you think, yeah, like, you should learn your fucking lesson. Instead, you thought, you thought. Yeah, we thought, yeah, now I see how this shit works. Now I see what these fuckers do to catch people. Right. Okay. I'm going to be able to, yeah. I'm going to do it right. Yeah. And I won't get caught. Exactly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And that didn't work out either, as we'll hear about later. Uh, but so I'm on all these pain pills. I'm still working at Millennium Teleservices. And like I said, again, small town, you know, very small group of people in this telemarketing office. It wasn't long after that to a word kind of spread. People were doing whispers, thought that I was the one that did it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Um, you know, that, you know, it took in this guy's father down, whatever. So I was fired not long after that. Uh, they said, anybody ever mentioned it to you? Uh, no. I mean, people would say, like, I've heard in conversations, like, oh, I heard that you snitched, you know, whatever. But no one... Did you give them the whole... Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I'm like, where's your... I'm like, you got me on tape, bro? I'm like, did you see a fucking discovery packet? You got me on tape? Well, no. I'm like, well, then, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Yeah, straight up. Until you show me a piece of paperwork with my name on it, you can get fucked. And they didn't have... They didn't... Yeah, they didn't have that shit. So they fired me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
They claimed that it was because I was deviating from the script, which is like an FTC violation when you're trying to sell shit over the phone. If you don't read exactly the script, you know, whatever, they can get fined for that shit. So... They said that I had deviated from the script. That was their excuse, but we all knew what the reason was. So, let's see.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
That would have been like 2001 or whatever. At this point, I'm still trying to go to college. I'm not really feeling it. Like I said, it's hard for me to stay interested in anything. If I get bored with something, I'm done. And all I wanted to do was go down there and party. Like that, you know, I'm 20 years old, man. Like, I'm not built for school. Just not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And so, you know, I tried, you know, like I said, best I could. And as I was down there doing that... The pills started to more and more get worse, you know, taking more and more than I was prescribed, that kind of thing. And then one day I went to a checkup in Columbus for them to look at my surgery scar and all that kind of stuff.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And they, the doctor hands me, you know, this is back when they still gave you paper prescriptions. They just didn't digitally call the shit into the pharmacy. You know, they handed you a script. And I remember looking at it and it was for ibuprofen. And I'm like, what's this? And he's like, they didn't step me down. There was no taper down fucking process. None of that shit. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
When I was five years old, which was a good thing, my dad was a monster, my real father, unfortunately. And so he was cheating on my mother behind her back. He was a union pipe fitter, and so he traveled a lot for work, stuff like that. And so he was away in South Carolina working and met this other woman who would become my stepmother and was cheating on my mom with her when he was down there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Like some of these doctors back then should be fucking strung up and shot for the amount of addicts that they created. Cause there was no, no, no thought into that. You know, it was just like, oh, you've been on these this long. We don't think you need them anymore. Here's to my ibuprofen. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And I'll never forget the next day waking up, man, and being so fucking sick, like a sick that I'd never felt. I had no idea what it was. I'd never been addicted to anything, didn't know what I was feeling. Sick, throwing up, finally figured out that it was because I was out of medication.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And so that started, you know, the whole thing where I started doctor shopping and I started going to every local, you know, emergency room around here and saying like, oh, I just had cancer surgery. Look at my leg, you know, like, let me get, a script, you know, or whatever. And like, it, it worked for a really long time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Um, you know, and then as I'm doing that, I'm still kind of selling some of them on the side and I'm no longer working at, uh, you know, millennium. I'm just kind of not working anywhere at all. And, you know, obviously later on I had a couple other jobs and stuff, but I've basically been fired from every job I've ever had. Like legit fired from every job I've ever had.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And I've worked, I feel like, you know, the movie Wayne's World where he's like, I've had plenty of Joe jobs, nothing I'd call a career. You know what I mean? He's like, I have an extensive collection of name tags and hairnets. You know, like that was me, dude. I had plenty of fucking Joe jobs.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
everywhere from working at you know the big freight company forward air to fucking mcdonald's dude and from being that to a bartender at applebee's i've done it i've done everything didn't work out just no way now right uh so at this point you know i happen to run into a friend of mine that i'd grown up with and kind of lost touch with uh His name was Jared.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And, you know, at this point, I'm also still kind of talking to Josh, the cop that got, you know, that got me at the telemarketing place. But I'm not doing any work for them, nothing like that. I mean, him and I actually just became friends. So I run into this guy, Jared, and he is, you know, doing a little bit of cocaine here and there. And I, you know, at that point, I'd never really done coke.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
You know, that was the worst mistake of my life ever doing it because I lived my whole life as in full tilt or nothing at all. Like, I don't believe in gray area. It's black or it's white. You know what I mean? So anything I get my hands on, I take it to the fucking nth degree. Cocaine was a bad idea. So first time, I'll never forget the first time I did like a line out of like a $50 bag.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I was like, oh, so this is what God looks like. I was like, okay, okay. I believe. Amen. Let's go. You know? And so I started hanging out with this guy, Jared. And doing, you know, back then I didn't have a lot of money. So just buying a little bit here and there. You know, nothing to write home to mom about. And one night we're hanging out with this girl that I knew, um, named, uh, Tiffany.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And I was also friends with her boyfriend who will become relevant later. Uh, his name was Eric. He's actually dead now. Um, but Eric and Tiffany both had to connect in the city in Columbus, like to get real coat, not like bullshit, local fucking whatever, like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
real deal Holyfield like bricks you know what I mean of raw whatever like it was ridiculous and uh I used to drive this girl Tiffany I used to drive her uh boyfriend Eric every once in a while and when he needed to make a run to the city to like re-up I would drive him and of course he would hook me up with driving him and whatever and so I would take him to his you know
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
place to get it and all that kind of stuff. So I'm hanging out with her one night and we're all, you know, it's late and we're looking around for stuff. And she uses my phone to try to call her dealer in Columbus to try to get some blow. We were going to make a trip up there. And the guy didn't answer the phone. Well, fast forward a couple days later, I'm not with Tiffany anymore.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I'm hanging out with this guy, Jared. My phone rings. It's from a number I have recognized. And I answer the phone, and he's like, yeah, someone tried to call me from this number. I'm like, oh, I was like, I think Tiffany used my phone. He's like, oh, yeah, who's this? And I told him, and he goes... And I said, I'm Eric's friend.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And so, you know, he, um, basically came back and it's kind of shitty. That's all I remember from my childhood, or at least that portion of it was the night that he left because I was there for all of it, for the screaming and the, you know, the whole kind of thing. And, uh, I always found it really weird. I knew at five years old, like what the word divorced meant.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And he's like, are you the guy that drives him all the time that I see out in my parking lot? And I'm like, yeah, bro, that's me. And he's like, oh, what would you need? And I'm like, uh, I don't know. I was thinking about maybe getting a quarter or something like that. He's like, just come to the city and hit me up. I like stumbled headfirst into like a connect. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
For like legit fucking coke. Like, People all the time, the bad problem with addicts is everybody always thinks their story or their dope was better than everybody else's. Did you ever know that with addicts? Like, you're telling a story to another addict. If you say, like, I had two else's, they're like, oh, bro, I had five. You know? Or if you say, like, my fucking blow was legit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
He's like, a lot of cops have been driving by there lately, and I thought, that's a weird thing to say. You know what I mean? Like, why would you say that? So once they'd heard that... They then wanted me to also get that guy on in wire. I didn't get a chance to tell you about the Mexican girl that I flew here from Mexico that I had never met in person before.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Oh, like, yeah, dude, I know. My shit was like, it was the shit. It was yellow as a cigarette filter. Like, fuck off. Like, this shit was ridiculous. Like, you threw, if you would throw a gram of this stuff in a spoon and cook it, It would come back heavier than what you put in there. And I'm talking about with a pinch of soda. Like, it would come back like 1.2, 1.3.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Like, it was just straight butter. It was ridiculous. So, he said that to me on the phone. And I'm like... looked at Jared and I'm like, we got to get some money together. And so back then, you know, you can get a quarter ounce for 350 bucks. So off to the city we went, man. And like, I had to drop Jared off because this guy didn't know him. He knew who I was just from seeing me in the car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And remember, I remember going to Morris Road in Columbus and to this guy, he was at his girlfriend's house. And just, he said, I'll be walking down the street. Just pick me up, pull up next to me and pick me up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
pulled up next to him he just hopped in the car and just that quick and all of a sudden now I'm I've got a you know giant amount of coke in my fucking hand so yeah we started fucking Jared and I selling a little bit here and there to pay for what we were buying and that kind of snowballed into selling a lot of fucking coke and then doing even more of it and as I mentioned earlier I was a terrible drug dealer man like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I felt bad for people that didn't have money. I was like, oh, I'll hook you up. You know what I mean? Like I just wanted to party and have fun. I was not business minded for that shit. You know what I mean? I just wanted to get high for free. But I had it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So I actually had a house that belonged to my grandmother and then she actually sold it to my mother. So it was basically like a rental property. And, uh, I was living in that and I was paying rent to live there. I wasn't living there for free. Cause when it comes to my mom, she would fucking play about money. Like the fact that I'm her son does not matter. You're going to pay money. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Um, but it was so funny, man. I, um, uh, you know, I was living in this little house and back then, you know, like, you know, the store hot topic at the mall. Yeah. Okay. You remember, like, you'd go to Hot Topic and they would sell, like, these little neon signs and shit? You remember seeing those and stuff? I had one of those pink flamingo neon signs, and it was in my window.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Cause I heard my father say that to my mother and like, I knew what it meant. It was kind of weird. Cause you're five, you know what I mean? Right. So, and then, yeah, literally he, that happened. And then I woke up the next morning and he was gone. And so he never really wanted much to do with me. I was lucky if I saw him once a year, you know, after they got a divorce. And I'm an only child.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So basically, if the flamingo was lit up, business was on. That's what the whole point of that fucking sign was. So I had, like, a pink flamingo lit up in my window. You could see it from the fucking road, dude, in the middle of the night. Just this bright pink fucking light shining out of this guy's window.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Um, Jared was staying with me basically because, you know, we were just kind of, I'd let him stay there and we were just, you know, basically do and blow and, and party in and whatever. And little by little, you know, that quarter ounce turned into buying a half ounce, then buying an ounce and then buying three ounces. And then, you know, we were both kind of running our asses off driving.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Like he would, we'd split it up. He'd deliver to people. I'd deliver to people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
you know on and on and that went on for a long time um and at this point i am completely fucking gone i'm doing you know like six grams or more a day like i weighed like 105 pounds i weigh 145 right now and like i can see my cheekbones like if you can imagine me at 105 like i look like walking death right you know what i mean where was josh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Josh, at this time, he had worked with the local police department. He wasn't from our department. That's why they brought him in to work at Millennium Telescope. He wasn't a local guy. He was actually from a county over. He lived in a county over from where I live. And was working at that police department.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So once he was done kind of here in town with what they had him do, he went back to working at his normal, you know, police department. You know, so which was in a place called Waverly, Ohio. A small town, you know, again, very small kind of place. It's close to a bigger city. But, you know, just that's what Josh was doing at the point. But him and I were still in contact.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
He knew what I was doing. You know what I mean? But he didn't.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
fuck with me about it or turn me in like he was no longer responsible for me you know what i'm saying so right yeah this job is done that's yeah yeah pretty much and so this went on for a long time bro and i was strung the fuck out my parents knew um it was heartbreaking like i just didn't care about anything all i cared about was drugs
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
uh you know i'll never forget being in the city one year uh you know at my dude's house getting getting dope on christmas eve and my mom calling me and being like look i just want to see you for christmas like crying on the phone like because they hadn't seen me in months because i just disappeared from them and uh even though i was living in her house like i would send the rent in the mail like they'd never saw me
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
and um she was crying on the phone like I know what you're doing you know just come here there won't be any problem I won't judge you I just want to see you for Christmas and that just ripped me in half you know what I mean but I couldn't stop I was so addicted and so you know whatever and so one night it was like 2 o'clock in the morning this is let's say this is probably 2000 and I want to say 4 at this point um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I had dope orderly. Had no need to re-up and go get more. But I thought it was a bright idea to call my dude at like 2 in the morning, like, I'm on my way. You know? And so I've been up already for like two days at this point, no sleep, just tweaked the fuck out. And I'm like, I'm going to drive to Columbus and get some more dope.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So I get in the car and go, and I'm rolling up through there, man, got my little plate in the car, doing some lines, listening to music, go up to the city, link up with him, get what I needed. And I really wasn't even getting that much compared to what I normally got. I got a half ounce that night. And, uh, so that was, you know, 500 bucks.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So my father married the woman he was cheating with and she didn't have any kids. They didn't have any kids together. And then, you know, my mother got remarried a couple of years later to my to my now stepfather. And I got a stepbrother and two stepsisters out of it. But my mom and my stepdad didn't have any kids together either. So I'm like a legit only child. Right. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And so on the way back from his house, I took a wrong exit. I mean, I was high as fuck, dude. And even though I'd been there a million times, I took a wrong exit. And at this point I was starting to come down and I was starting to shake and shiver and fucking just, you know what I mean? And I was trying to find a place to pull over to get like a line in me so I can come back out of it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And dude, I stopped at this speedway, and of course I started to get fucking paranoid. And like, I thought everybody was looking at me, and I went in the store, and then I came out of the store, and then fucking got back in the car, and like I'd bend over to do a lot, and I'm like, oh man, there's people looking at me. And so I fucking, I'm a mess at this point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Been up two days, I'm just fucking wrecked. And I pull out of speedway, and soon as I pull out, there's a red light right here, and the light was fucking yellow. I go through the yellow light and as soon as I go through it, there was a paddy wagon cop parked alongside of the fucking curb. Like watching people. You know what I mean? In this area.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
They were just sitting there in a van, like a paddy wagon van style, like not a police car. Yeah. And pulled out, you know, hit the switch, fucking lit me up, got behind me. And like, I was done, dude. As soon as they come up to the car, the guy's like, you've been drinking? And I was like, no. And I'm trying to hold it together. And his partner had walked around the passenger side of the car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And I remember seeing his partner out of the, my peripheral vision go like this. I was driving a fucking Oldsmobile Laro at the time, a two-door. And his partner pointed and I turned and looked and the plate was sticking out from underneath behind the back seat where I tried to shove it under there. And it had fucking coke all over it and fucking, and like at that point,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I was so tired and so fucking just exhausted of being awake that long and stuff. I didn't even put up a fight. I just got out of the car. I put my hands out. You know what I mean? They cuffed me. They searched the fucking car. Found the dope in the console. It was all in one bag. It looked like, you know, a chunk of fucking Irish spring soap. It was all in one big fucking piece.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And I remember hearing the cops say like, I bet you're going to cut this two or three times. And I was like...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
cut it like dude that's what we fucking sell i what i nor is what i sell i don't cut anything and i never did that's then that's 100 true i never cut the dope to try to make more money off of ever you know what i mean right um i saw so many people do that and i used to because that's the shit that will fuck your guts and everything up when you do cocaine it's not the coke it's all the baby lax or creatine or whatever the fuck else they're putting in it you know what i mean
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I mean, I saw a guy use hairspray one night to fucking... Oh, yeah. Like, he took an ounce of coke, cut it up, put it in a piece of PVC pipe that had a cap on the end of it, okay? Put it down in the pipe, like a cut-off piece of pipe.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
and then put sprayed hairspray down in the pipe, and then literally used like a big C-clamp, and put the C-clamp where the top part was down in the pipe, and then the bottom part is up against the cap on the bottom of the pipe, tightened it down so it would compress all that with the hairspray in there and hold the coke together.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I don't know if you're how familiar you are with cocaine, but like... Not at all. Okay, dude, it's... If you ever get a bag of cocaine, like a gram or something, and it's all powder in the bag, it pisses people off. It's garbage. People want to see rocks. They want to see chunks. And so many people will try to fool you by doing stuff like that, cutting it up with different shit, whatever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
What I snorted is what I sold. I never cut it once. I just didn't care. I got it for $1,000 an ounce back then and sold it for $100 a gram. You know what I mean? There's 28 grams in a fucking ounce. So do the math. So I made money either way. I didn't need to cut it. But this guy, you know, I got arrested that night. They take me to... It take me to fucking first real jail I'd ever been in.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I'd been in my local jail a couple times, you know, prior to that for driving things and stuff like that. This was Franklin County Jail in Columbus. This is a place they called the workhouse. This was what they called it. And... You know, it's all black people in there. I mean, dude, I grew, I grew, you know, the town I grew up in, there are no black people here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
There was one African-American kid in my entire graduating high school class. One. There is, you come here and it's white as far as the eye can see. Okay. All of a sudden I'm in a fucking, you know, county jail with like just black dudes and shit galore, you know, arguing over fucking boxes of nutty buddies and shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So after my dad left, he didn't want much to do with me, didn't see me that often, didn't really pay child support. My mom showed me records and proof and stuff. She wasn't just trying to bash my dad. He was not the greatest guy. He had his own fucking issues. He drank, alcoholism runs in my family, horrible. So bad to the point that my mother's father actually killed himself because of it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I slept under a picnic table for three days until a bunk became available. And then I'd been in there about a week until my mom fucking bailed me out. Five grand to fucking bail me out. Why did she wait so long? Just probably teach me a lesson. You know what I mean? Yeah, they impounded my fucking car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
You know, and what really I always thought was so funny is they impounded my car, obviously, after I got arrested that night. My cell phone was in the car, which had my dealer's info in it. All these contacts and shit. When I went to pick my car up from the fucking Columbus impound, the phone was still laying in the seat where I left it. They never didn't touch anything. They left it all in there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I thought, well, you know. So after a week of being in there, she got me an attorney. Like I said, my mom's been amazing. It's the one person that's never given up on me. Okay, man. So got arrested in Franklin County Workhouse. I get released. You know, from there, my mom bills me out, gets me an attorney. Great attorney, actually. Saved my ass. Yeah, he was from Columbus.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
It wasn't a local attorney where I lived. She got me one from the city where I was at. So I get out, go get my car from impound. And, you know, of course, you think that would have, again, stopped me or gave me some inkling that maybe I shouldn't be doing this shit. Nope. Your mic got muted.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Fuck them. So, you know, you think that would have deterred me or whatever. But it didn't. Literally, the day I picked my car up from Columbus Impound, I went right back up to my dudes. Like I said, my guy was in Columbus. Clear up on Cleveland Avenue. Anyone that knows Columbus knows what Cleveland Avenue is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
He lived in this apartment complex that was right behind a titty bar, a place called Siren's. Obviously, it wasn't called Siren's Titty Bar. Just called Sirens. But that's where he was at. So I went right back up there, dude. And, you know, got some more. After I got out, got a shower, got my car, whatever, went home. And, of course, I remember calling him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And he's like, where you been for a week? And, I mean, I lied my ass off to him. I was like, oh, dude, my phone got broke. And, like, I couldn't get a new phone. And, like, you know, he's like, oh, I thought something happened to you, man. Like, you got pinched or something. I was like, oh, no. No, no, no, no. And see, I never, what I did at, you know, the telemarketing place, I wasn't stupid.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I wasn't trying to get killed. I wasn't about to fucking ever go do anything like that with this dude. And they tried. Because I got caught with a fucking half ounce of coke. I mean, the only thing that saved my ass was it was in one bag, so it wasn't intent to sell. Right. Yeah. I mean, I had digital scales in the car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I had a plate with lines chopped out on it, razor blades, fucking whatever, dude. One of my mom's nice Longaberger fucking plates in the car with, like, just rails a blow on it. Um... But, yeah, they tried. And I was like, look, man, you guys are fucking crazy. I said, you charge me, whatever. I said, I'm not telling you shit. I was like, I'm not trying to get killed. Oh, we can make sure.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I said, you can't make sure of anything, dude. No, they do not. They'll be your best friend until you give them what you want, man. I fucking hate cops. I do. Like I said, Josh is kind of the exception, the guy I mentioned. And the guy who... you know, was my handler from the local police department. Like I said, Josh was brought in there to work this case, but that guy was a good dude as well.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
His name was Mike and he actually looked out for me. He really did. Um, which we'll get into some more of that later, but, uh, so anyway, went right back up and got more, kept doing what I was doing. And fast forward, you know, maybe about a year later, I'd been to Columbus a couple of times going to court, you know, trying to show that I was trying to get sober.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Hung himself. Which is a wild story in itself, like how it happened. He, um... Obviously, way before I was born, but he was in World War II and came home and obviously had a bunch of issues. My mother's father, my grandfather, drank a lot and got picked up one night here in town by the police for drunk and disorderly or something like that, and they put him in the holding cell.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I, you know, had X amount of clean urine screens that I went and took on my own recognizance at that point from like, you know, just to show the judge, um, things like that. And, uh, I happened to be let's see. So one night we're in town here, local, and I was hanging out with that guy, Eric, that I mentioned earlier that I used to drive for. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And so we had kind of been hanging out a little bit and I, you know, I, I'd went up earlier in the day and gotten some Coke and stuff. And, uh, for whatever reason that day, I thought it'd be a good idea to go rent a car. I used to like to rent cars all the time, drive different shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So I drove all the way to Huntington, West Virginia this day to the airport and rented a fucking Ford Expedition, just a giant fucking SUV. Why, I don't know. And, and I'll never forget that. I don't know why, but, um, so I had this SUV, I'm out riding around delivering some shit to people, getting high, just business as usual.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And, uh, Eric calls me a few hours after I dropped him off and he's like, Hey man, I got a guy that wants, you know, a quarter ounce. He's like, uh, come meet me over such and such. I had no reason to think there was a problem, you know, whatever. So I go over and meet him. He comes, he gets in the car. I fucking weigh it out right there in the car. Again, got scales in the car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Didn't learn anything, dude. Got digis in the car, the whole thing. Right. And it's not even my car. It's a fucking real car. You know what I'm saying? So he goes, let me, I weigh it out, give it to him. And I probably, after I weighed it out, I think I still had somewhere like maybe between six and eight grams left on me, you know, still in the bag. Uh, so I give it to him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
He's like, well, let me take this over to him and show him. He's like, as long as it's, you know, they want to see it first. And like, I thought, okay, whatever. And he's like, then I'll bring you the money back. So he takes off out of the car. And like I said, at this point, I had no reason not to trust him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I mean, I was going to get my shit from the same dude he got his shit from, you know what I'm saying? So about 30 minutes go by and I call him. He doesn't answer. And then about another 10 minutes go by, and he calls me back, and he's like, hey, man, I wouldn't park down there at that gas station where you met me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
He's like, a lot of cops have been driving by there lately, and I thought, that's a fucking weird thing to say. You know what I mean? Like, why would you say that? I can't hear you, buddy. See? You mute it, man. It goes to hell to handcart.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Why did you have me meet you there in the first place if you knew this? Okay. So I'm like, well, that's kind of weird, man. But he goes, he says, he says, I'll be there in five minutes. He's like, just be careful. And I'm high. And when you're high, you don't fucking think right anyway.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So, I swear to God, no sooner than I pulled in back into this gas... This is probably 3 o'clock in the morning at this point. No sooner than I pulled back into this gas station and shut the fucking motor off, I was surrounded by the fucking local sheriff's department. This motherfucker... which I can't say anything because, I mean, I did something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I wore a wire to get myself out of trouble, okay? This motherfucker just didn't want to pay for the dope. So when I gave him the quarter ounce, went back to the house where he was partying at, called the cops on me so they would know where I would be so he didn't have to pay me for it. I found all this out later from just people and stuff like that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So he basically snitched on me so he could get a free quarter ounce of dope. These fucking drug addicts. I know, bro. You just can't trust them. No, I know, man. And like I said, I didn't belong there because I was a good person. I felt sorry for people. Like I had no business being a fucking drug addict. Like, how many drug addicts do you know that would give? Or how many dealers do you know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Not that you're in that world, but anybody watching this will go, bro, you fucking idiot. Like, yeah, I shouldn't have gave a quarter ounce of fucking blow to someone and been like, sure, take it over to the guy's house and let him look at it. Like, I realize how stupid that is. But I'm not going to lie to you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
No, terrible at it. Terrible at it. People would lie to me. I would sell them a fucking gram. I'd deliver it, drop it off. I'd get halfway back home, and they'd be like, I weighed this, man. It was like .2 fucking light, which I knew better because I weighed it before I left the fucking house. They had already taken some out of it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I would feel bad, turn around, go back, and give them fucking, here's .2, and like stupid shit like that. Because I fucking...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
stupid yeah i was 20 yes 20 fucking three years old man at this point so i get surrounded you were saying for the brand yeah yeah it's working well yeah yeah i was working towards shark tank which didn't fucking exist then but yeah yeah i was trying to get on with the fuck you know mark cuban um so they were still around the car same scenario again
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And apparently it was cold. And so he asked if he could have his, like his coat, like his, he had like a trench coat or something. And he took the belt off the coat and hung himself in the cell. Okay. Yeah. So that's my mother's father. Yeah. So alcoholism runs on both sides, on my mother's side and my father's side, like, like horrible. You know, my last name is German and Welsh.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
paraphernalia in the car but all the dope i'd taken it out then weighed it giving him seven grams which is a quarter ounce and uh you know and then uh put everything back into one bag so again i didn't have a bunch of shit split up in the car pre-weighed up ready to sell whatever So they surround the car, get me, and again, it's all in one bag.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So now we got 14 grams I got caught with in Columbus, and now, if I remember, it was close to 8 grams that I got caught with here locally. Okay? So that's a good bit of blow to get caught with. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I mean, it's not, you know, I understand that there's people that have done way more than me, that have got caught with way more, but for the small town that I'm from, these are pretty crazy fucking things. Like, people around here just didn't do that kind of shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah. Like I said, this is a small town. You know, people knew that I'd been arrested in Columbus. People knew that I had been in jail. People, like, this is not a big place. It's... It's fucking horrible here. I don't recommend it at all to anybody. Not that I'm saying exactly where I'm at, but I just, it's small town to marry. It's fucking Mayberry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
You know, like it's, there's, there's very, they have very little patience with drug dealers there. Yes. It's, I mean, bad idea. Yeah, man. Fuck it. Bunch of cock diesel fucking rednecks, man. They're not curtailing their way of life for drug dealers. No. Yeah. Yeah. And this is back in, like, 03, man, when it was just different then. I mean, you're older just like me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
You remember how different it was then than it is now. Like, people don't understand. You know what I mean? It's just... So, yeah, they're just a bunch of redneck motherfuckers with a badge. Every cop I've ever met's been a high school bully with a badge. Every one of them. And COs in prison, same thing. You know what I mean? Like, what'd you say, bro?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Like, fucking just cock diesel, you know what I mean? Like, that's what... Right. Stupid and big, that's what most of them are. Just quarter-fed fucking just country boys. You know, whatever. So they get me. Of course I get arrested. They take me up to the station. Same thing. And, you know, within a couple hours, I'm in the local jail.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And this time, my mom, you know, like I said, I'm an only child, you know, adult. Not like any of the people I was selling to were going to come bail me out. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Oh, I thought you meant the police because I mentioned to them. Oh, believe me, I mentioned to them, like, I've worked with you guys. You know what I mean? Oh, okay. I bet your drug dealer buddies bailing you out. Oh, yeah. Well, neither one of them gave a fuck. Not the cops or the fucking drug addicts, you know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I told them, like, I've worked with you with so-and-so from this police department. They give no fucks. They don't care. They, nah. Nah, they don't care. Uh, so this time local jail and the local jail here, you know, you have all criminals from all walks of life in it. You know, county jail is the worst place. I think you can agree. Anybody agree. You're a lockdown 23 fucking hours a day. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah. They're slipping your fucking dinner through a mail chute in the fucking door. Like, here's your tray. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So we got German in us. So there's plenty of drinkers in my family. They like beer. But I didn't go that route. I went the more chemical route. You know what I mean? Yeah. I was never big on beer.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah. Yeah, it's a mixed bag. It is, man. And I got lucky because I was in a four-man cell. Most of the cells in this jail were two-man. I was in a four-man cell, and it actually had its own phone in the cell. So it had its own payphone in the cell, and there was four bunks instead of two. So there was enough people in one cell to play fucking cards. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So you could play euchre, you could whatever. You know, spades, poker, whatever the fuck it was. So this time, my mom lets me sit in there for 45 days. Like, during that whole period, I'm getting to go over to the court, you know, like, to try to get released on an OR bond. Like, I've been in jail now for a week, then two weeks, then, like, they're not letting me out. She's not bailing me out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Eventually, after about 45 days, I had another court date coming up, and I remember my stepdad got on the phone when I called home to collect one night, and he said, you know, listen, if they don't let you out the next time you go, he's like, we'll step in and do something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And I was like, so I knew I was going to finally be able to get out like, you know, almost however, almost two months later, you know? Um, yeah, the sunshine. Sorry about that. It's, uh, this house has a lot of windows, unfortunately. Um, so. I hate that sunlight. Yeah, fucking just like a fucking vampire, bro. Even though, and yeah, I also go to the tanning bed if you can't tell.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So fucking cancer. Yeah, I'm super smart. I'm so smart. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Actually, I tanned day before yesterday. I don't give a fuck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I figure it evens itself out. You know what I mean? Yeah. If I stay hydrated, take the vitamins, like, I can smoke and tan. I don't fucking care. I don't give a shit. I've made it 42 years. If I'm not dead yet, bro, like, listen, somebody up there is looking out. They have to be, or I'm just, I don't know, but I'm too dumb to die, I guess. Uh, so I finally get out of, um,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So anyway, my mom got remarried when I was seven to my stepfather, who honestly I really don't have that much in common with or get along with either, but he's good to my mother and that's all I care about. So growing up, you know, I was very lucky. Come from an upper middle class home.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Jackson, you know, I've, I've, uh, I want to fucking say my name. I finally get out of this jail and, uh, I, um, you know, at this point, not been doing any drugs. I've been in jail. I've gained all this fucking weight back. I've looked fucking terrible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I mean, some people would have said I looked good because I wasn't 105 pounds anymore, but I've just been in there eating and fucking, you know, whatever. And so got out, went to court, and then that's when the lawyer from Columbus, they had given me basically a court-appointed attorney with this local charge.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And then he basically took over both cases and got them to run it concurrent, both charges together. Right. So I had to go back to Columbus one more time. Um, for, for that and the judge, you know, allowed it to be run together and all this stuff and whatever. And then for the local one, um, finally went in front of the, you know, common, please judge for that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And, uh, I'd never been, you know, I'd only been arrested once before, which was the Columbus thing, you know? I've never been in trouble, never been in any kind of real whatever. I've never had, and even to this day, I've never had the domestic violence. I've never had anything like that. I'm not a violent guy. I'm just not, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So the judge agreed to let me have what was called treatment in lieu of conviction. So if I would have, yeah, rehab, stay on the right path, go to probation, urine screens, you know, of course I couldn't do that. Why would I want to do that? Yeah, that's for suckers. Yeah, quitters, quitters. Yeah, fucking quitters, pussies.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
This fucking guy, man, this fucking probation officer, I hate this fucking prick to this day, but I got him back, and I'll tell you why years later. I'm 24 at this point or whatever. This guy, his name is Frank. He's a fucking, you know, not the emperor. No, no, different Frank. Uh, see, I watch your stuff, man. Uh, but different guy. And, uh, you know,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
fucked with me something awful hated me because i would piss dirty all the time uh you know shut up of my fucking house just i mean raid the fucking house tear it apart move the couch looking for shit whatever and it just he are you saying that he wanted you to abide by the the by your probation yeah that's crazy right yeah what a dick I know. These guys are the worst.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
My mother, especially after my father left, great woman, very smart, worked four jobs to take care of her and I before she met my stepfather. People hear that and they go, four jobs, what the fuck? I'm like, yeah. She was an insurance agent for 45 years until she retired. She was the clerk treasurer at the local library and she did books and payroll for two separate laundromats.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah, I don't know what they'd think when they read your job title, but they're just fucking idiots. You're telling me that I can't commit additional crimes and do general probation? But here's the best part. The judge had even also implemented house arrest unmonitored. So, no ankle monitor. I've been on an ankle monitor for other charges. This time, this was no ankle monitor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Try going to town to sneak out of your house to go to the grocery store and running into the judge at Kroger's. And he knows you're supposed to be on fucking house arrest. Like, and he just looks at me and says, hello, Mr. Such and Such. And I'm like, oh, fuck. You know, like, oh, that's happened. Yeah, that's fucking happened. That's awesome. Anything come of it or not?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
He didn't say where I mean, he looked the look who gave me was all that needed to be said, but he saw me in there. And then, of course, wasn't like a day or so later. Here's the probation department again at my fucking house. Check it out. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
That's what I said to him. I said, I really just... That's what I said to him in the store that night when I ran into him. I said, I just needed to come and get some food. I kind of put my hands up like this, and he just looked at me. He didn't fucking say anything, and I thought, oh, shit. And then, yeah. So... I was probably on probation, felony probation.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And so, the ultimate charge that I got was a felony five. Okay, that's what I pled out to because everything was in one bag both times. It wasn't intent to sell. I had an addiction problem. So, you know, it was a felony five is what I got. And so trying to do probation and shit, I kept pissing dirty and everything, man. It just didn't fucking work. You know what I mean? And so eventually...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I kind of got tired of getting violated. I got tired of getting thrown in County jail for a fucking week, whatever the case was. So eventually I went to Frank and I said, look, uh, I said, man, how much time I got for Michelle? And I had about a year, a little over a year over my head is basically what it was. Cause I had done County time and like all that stuff. They count all that towards. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And so, um, Oh, well, I didn't mention that. So the rehab part of the sentence, I got sent to a halfway house. I got thrown out of there. I got caught having a cell phone. So there's a there's a fucking halfway house in and I have a cell phone. No, it is a Lancaster, Ohio. It's called the Community Transition Center is right next to a fucking Dollar General.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And tell them about white privilege, though. Did you tell them that nuns go after loud? Yeah, I'll have to follow these rules. Yeah, not until after. I should have told them before, but I thought they knew at this point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah, see, you think, like, you think, isn't it funny when you really kind of find out that the rules do apply to you? Because I always thought they didn't apply to me, you know, like, but. Yeah, and I've literally told people the rules don't apply to me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
It sucks bad. Yeah, because up to this point, you know, I'd always been good at talking and good at whatever, and I'd gotten myself out of a lot of shit, you know what I mean? There were so many times that I did get pulled over and had a ton of dope in the car and got out of them not searching it or, you know, whatever. Like, it was almost like I wanted to get caught in a way. I mean, there was...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Dude, there was one night I was in Columbus staying at a hotel. We were partying up there, and I left to go get dope. And on the way back, I'm on 270, which is the main highway there. It's a big four-lane highway. And I'm running 103 miles an hour. And this is at like 4 o'clock in the morning, just pitch black, no one on the highway.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
My mom worked her ass off to take care of us. And once my stepfather came into the picture, like I said, I all of a sudden had a stepbrother and two stepsisters. My sisters were older, so they didn't live with us, but I did all of a sudden have a brother that lived with us now, and now I'm growing up with a sibling in the house, which I wasn't used to before then. How old was your brother?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And there's a fucking Columbus cop setting, like clocking people on the highway. And I ripped past this motherfucker. Now, I told you I was at a hotel, right? It was at AmeriHost Inn, okay? The reason I remember that is because I had a hot tub room and they provided bathrobes. Well, I was driving with that fucking bathrobe on.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And a backwards hat with a fucking toothbrush sticking out of the side of it. I looked like a fucking lunatic, dude. I had an AmeriHost Inn bathrobe on, backwards hat, toothbrush, and I get pulled over. You would think that would be like immediately the guy wrote me a fucking ticket. It was $130 speeding ticket and let me go. Didn't even search the car. If he'd have fucking opened the truck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It was probably close to the end of shift. Yeah. Yeah. But like you times like that, you think, oh, I'm invincible. I can't get caught, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He's looking out for me. Oh, bro. You know, I don't know how I'm alive because I've OD'd twice. And one time while driving. And if it wasn't for that guy Eric that I mentioned that ended up snitching me out, being in the passenger seat and throwing the car into fucking neutral because my foot went flat on the accelerator and basically punching me in the chest, I would have died.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He brought me out of it. He was in the passenger seat and swung his fist like this and hit me in the sternum. And I fucking come up out of it. After being awake for like two days, dehydrated, just on straight coke and cigarettes, no food. Yeah, and OD'd while driving like 60 miles an hour. He was able to wrestle the car over to the side of the fucking road and throw it in neutral.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And like, yeah, so just, but I'm still here. I thought, yeah, of course I thought the rules didn't apply to me. Of course. So I got thrown out of halfway house, got taken to the local jail, got released from jail, then came back to my town, and then more probation, more supervision, and then eventually, like I said, I went to him and said, you know, How much time do I have? He told me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I said, just give me everything I got. I said, I can't do this, Sheriff. I can't do probation. I said, you know, I just... I want to do whatever I've got and be done with this. I want it past me, you know? And, um... And he agreed. And he also agreed that when I got out, there would be no post-release control. I didn't have to get out and go to a halfway house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know, I wasn't a violent offender, anything like that. And so I went to, you know, first. So first I got taken to. CRC, which is the Correctional Receiving Center in Columbus, Ohio. And there is where they figure out where your institution is going to be and then ride you out to your parent institution from there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So while I'm in CRC, I got put in the medical dorm because I was crazy and they knew I had mental issues, I had meds and all this shit. So I'm in the medical dorm, and the first day, I'm up on the top tier. You know, it was like a horseshoe shape, and I'm up on the top tier. And I happen to look down, and who do I see that's in jail with me at CRC?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
He's a year older than me. So he's I'll be 43 this year. He's 44 right now. Yeah. So he's a year older. He graduated in 1998. I graduated in 99. We both went to the same high school. Um, so she married him and then, you know, things started to really get better after that. Like, uh, my stepfather had a really successful contracting business, very smart guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Now, for people from Ohio, they'll know, they should know, and especially if you're a Ohio State football fan, which if you're from Ohio, most people are. I was in prison with Maurice Claret, which was the number 13 for the high state Buckeyes. I was in CRC in 2006, so he would have played for high state in 2004 or 2005, somewhere in there, and he was a big deal. He got NFL contracts.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I mean, he was a hell of a running back. And this guy flipped out one night in Columbus, something to do with his girl or something like that. For those of you who want to know about him, he did an interview with DJ Vlad on YouTube. So Maurice Claret is on DJ Vlad's channel.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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on youtube um and he explains everything uh but he uh got caught with an ak-47 a bulletproof vest i think two nine millimeters and like a liter of gray goose vodka in an escalade he was on his way to kill somebody And he ran from the cops. It was this whole big deal. So for Ohio, it was a big fucking deal. Well, I was in CRC with him. Couldn't have been a cooler dude, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Signed autographs for me. I mean, this is still back. Tree iPhone. The first iPhone didn't come out until 2007. So, uh... I called my mom from jail and I said, I'm in here with Maurice Correa. My mom went to Ohio State to college. She's a huge Ohio State fan. I'm like, print me out some photos of him off the computer and mail them to me in a fucking pre-stamped envelope. And she did.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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She found a couple of photos of him online, dial up back then, fucking, you know, and all that noise it used to make. of him diving in the end zone for touchdowns, whatever. She mails them to me, and dude, the COs let him borrow a sharpie fucking pen, and he fucking signed them right there on the CO's desk during rec. And suck it, I put them back in the envelope and mailed them home.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So, got my grandma an autograph from Reese Claret from prison. Yeah, grandma was cool. She's gone now, too. Um, you know, I was pretty much raised by her and my mom, pretty much nothing but women until my mom got remarried. So, I mean, strong women in my family, like I'm very thankful for that. My grandma was a cool lady, cool, cool lady. Um, so it was NCRC. And as I mentioned, uh, before, uh,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know, they got me on psych meds and shit in there. They had me on Thorazine. I was all fucked up, just shuffling around. And of course, back then, you could still smoke in prison, thank God. And you couldn't smoke in your cell, but they sold chewing tobacco on fucking commissary. So I would chew Redman chewing tobacco in my cell so I could get nicotine.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then going to and from chow was the only time they allowed you to smoke. In a straight line, they would walk you to and from, you know. Right. And so you could order cigarettes on commissary in there, you know, whatever. And then once I found out what my parent institution was going to be, I, you know, they give you a list of things you can take with you, shit like that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like you can bring a white, all white pair of Nikes or any all white tennis shoes, things like that. Well, back then you could still bring a carton of cigarettes with you in prison. So I took a carton of, well, camels with me, camel wides, to a prison. And back then, they called them Cadillacs. So if you had name brand cigarettes, you know, they basically would say it was a carton of Cadillacs.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I brought a carton of Cadillacs with me to fucking prison. I was a popular guy, man. so yeah um so i left crc and got taken to fci which is southeastern correction institution um which is in lancaster ohio which is also where that halfway house was and um So I get in there and I get put into what's called I-Dorm, which is the way their dorms were at this prison.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Everything was like a big airplane hangar. And it was just rows of bunk beds, you know, just, I mean, so there was like, and they called them by like street names. So like First Street, Second Street, Third Street. So I slept on First Street right by the fucking payphone bank, which was, I mean, I got a bottom rack though, but I just, you know, right by all the goddamn payphones.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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fuck man all night long just i mean it's just fucking terrible you know until lights yeah until lights out i mean until lights out yeah but you could still you know of course have a tv they had cable cords you know it's a low security prison they had cable cords routed to each bunk so at the end of your bunk there was a stand and you could buy a clear see-through 13 inch color tv off commissary and have a tv at the end of your bunk that's nuts
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Um, but a lot of the, I live in a small town, so a lot of the houses and things around here, he actually built different businesses, things like that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, so I had a fucking TV, it got, you know, all the four channels, and then this prison had a movie channel, where you would tune into this certain channel, and basically they would play DVDs all day long, they would just swap them out. So the first time I ever saw fucking Talladega Nights, Ricky Bobby, fucking shake a bait, was in fucking prison.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Because they played it on the fucking closed loop inside the prison in there, you know? So I did all my time there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
in uh i dorm and it was so funny i remember the first day i got there uh you know there was people in there locally from my town that i knew and recognized and i remember this one guy his name's jason he's dead now i mean a lot of people i knew are dead um but jason was one of the biggest just fuck up been arrested a hundred thousand more times than i ever was like he's lived in the same town as me so you know everybody knew everybody
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And then I get taken to prison the first day I see him and he's in the fucking honor dorm of all people to be in the honor dorm. This fucking guy, like if you knew if you know, it's kind of a story you had to be there. But if you knew this guy and knew who he was to see him in the fucking honor dorm was ridiculous. Right. Yeah. So I'll never forget that. Um, but did all my time there, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and um so yeah growing up uh we were very lucky had my parents made good money we traveled you know anything you would probably want it to be from a childhood standpoint good christmases things like that you know what i mean right yeah yeah so um which makes no sense for the path that i chose because i didn't belong in that world at all i was a horrible drug dealer which we'll get to
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And, um, you know, uh, made it through, you know, unscathed. I never had to go to the hole or anything like that. Luckily. Um, you know, was it again?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Okay. Yep. Yep. 395 days. And, uh, I had, that was the total sentence I had done. like 50, I think it was 55 days is what it ended up being in County. So they took that off the, you know, the total. So I spent, you know, 300 and, um, you have 10 days in prison basically. And in that prison in, you know, um, so yeah, but it was 13 months total.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
um but uh yeah man jesus christ so got out of there and basically had nothing you know i got released march 11th of 2007 and i decided then and there i never wanted to go back you know now to just to give you an example i've been sober 13 years now and that's legit no relapse no fucking nothing straight up and down sober so aside from cigarettes and caffeine bro that's it i don't even work Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So, but when I got out, you know, it's, I fucked up a few times when, you know, when I got out. I didn't get necessarily put back in jail because, like, again, I got out. I didn't have any post-release control. I didn't have any, you know, probation, anything like that. You know what I mean? So, fucked up a few times, but basically was living with my grandmother and had nothing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
No car, no nothing. And eventually met this girl. Can I ask you a question? What do you mean fucked up? Like, you said you didn't have any relapses. Right. Right. Well, no, no, no. I mean, now, 13 years later, I have not had any relapses, anything like that. Because if you add 13 to 2007, that would only be 2020. This is 2023.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So there was about a year or so after I got out of prison, maybe, where I still went back to the pain pill thing. I never did coke again. but I went back to the pain pill thing again and started getting into that. And of course, you know, that just, it was just all bad, you know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Just, and I, it was hard, but I eventually got straightened up, got a, you know, cheap car and, um, you know, started to kind of work my way towards just, you know, getting better, you know, that kind of stuff, you know what I mean? And, um, Again, to fast forward a little bit, as I sent you last night, a lot of people don't get this lucky, but I actually got to get my felony expunged.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
It took me 20 years basically to do that. I mean, my original charge was the first time I ever got caught with coke. I was, I think, what, 21, 22? Yeah. I just got the felony taken off my record April of last year.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So, I mean, it took me 20 years to pay off all the fines and get a valid driver's license, valid insurance, stay clean, not relapse, not be arrested for anything else, yada, yada, yada, all this stuff. Right. Plus, you have to wait 10 years from your original sentence date before you can even apply to get the felony taken off your record. Your charge has to be 10 years old. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. Um, so, but yeah, hired an attorney man last year and, uh, you know, got to go and, you know, what's so funny is after all this craziness, man, and all this madness and that, and it took that long to get this felony expunged. When I went in front of the judge that day, the original judge that had charged me at the felony court was not even on the bench anymore at this point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Okay. And yes, I am loyal to that guy that I wore a wire to.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I was terrible with a drug dealer. I just wanted to party. Like, I was terrible at it. So, you know, growing up, and then pretty much just like anybody else's life, man, going to school, going to high school, like I said, my stepbrother and I now, I had a brother who stuck up for me. I got picked on a lot in school. I was a very heavyset kid when I was younger. I was a fat kid.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know what I mean? That was 20 years ago. So going to the court, it took two minutes for them to be like, sure, you're not a felon anymore.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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A lot of the states will. Yeah, and so it's – when I went into court that day, it was me, my attorney, the judge, and the prosecutor. Okay? And, of course, I got yelled at by the judge. I'll tell you why in a minute. I thought going to court that day was for a celebratory thing. Like, hey, I'm going for a good reason to get my felony expunged. I don't need to wear a suit and tie.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I wore shorts and a hoodie. Yeah. I wore basically something like this. And, you know, like fucking sex-wise. I had a fucking pair of shorts and Adidas slides. And he... They presented it to the court. He, you know, said, well, I'm going to go ahead and allow this to go through. Prosecutor, do you have any, you know, whatever? And she said no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And so he says, okay, we're going to allow this to go through. And then he goes, he says my last name. And he says, how about next time you don't wear shorts to court? And I was like, oh, your honor, you know, I'm sorry. He said, I don't plan on there being next time. He goes, well, yeah, how about next time you just don't do it? And I was like, yes, sir. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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fucking skedaddled the fuck out of there. So, you know, got my felony expunged, man. Like, Again, I've heard you talk about this. You know, I couldn't own a firearm. You know, I couldn't fucking vote. I couldn't have a passport. Anything. Now, and with the paperwork that I sent you, I mean, did you have a chance to look at it? I read it. Okay. Yeah, now I can do all those things again, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I mean, I busted ass to do that. You know what I mean? To fucking be... Not that I'll ever vote, because who gives a fuck? But I want to own some guns. God damn it. This is America. I'm white. I want some guns. You know what I mean? what the fuck yeah dude seriously I know I know I know you I shouldn't have said that but it's true um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's not what they told me. Oh, they said you couldn't? Yeah, they told me that if I wanted to go anywhere, the farthest I could go is Puerto Rico because it's considered part of the United States. Like, if I wanted to go outside the United States before I got the felony expunged, that's a no-go. You could not go get a passport. I have a passport. Steve, maybe it's in Ohio.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, I don't, you know what I mean? Well, I also got permission from my judge to get the passport. There you go. Yeah. Okay. See that maybe that has something to do with, I never, yeah, I never applied. I never even tried to go get one. Cause I mean, really, I'm not a rich guy. I really don't have a shit ton of extra money to travel a bunch, you know, things like that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But, uh, I mean, I hope to get one one day and be able to actually fucking use it yet. And, um, You know, the gun thing, I honestly have been afraid to walk in there because, you know, they're going to do a background check on you right there. And even though I've got the paperwork, it's just been this little thing in the back of my head. Like, you know, plan for it. You know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No shit. I mean, and it's expected. Yeah. Well, it didn't just happen last year as of April, and I asked the attorney that I hired, by the way, this whole thing, to get it expunged, and they will allow you... to file the paperwork yourself. So if you wanted to try to get your felony expunged and do it yourself without hiring an attorney and paying an attorney, whatever, they won't allow that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I got fucked with a lot. I got picked on a lot. And so when I got to high school, I started to thin out a little bit. But he was good about that. He always made sure nobody messed with me and shit. He really kind of watched my back, even though he wasn't my real brother. So I was always thankful for that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It has to be an attorney to go to the court and file the paperwork. That's what they told me anyway. So it was $1,500 for everything. So not bad. No, not bad. No. But yeah, man, it just happened April of last year.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I asked him, I said, you know, well, how long does it take for them to get, you know, you guys send out letters to all these FBI, all these different bureaus to scrub my name from their system. all this shit. And he's like, well, we send out the letters. He's like, it's a, you know, required by law that they do it. He's like, I couldn't tell you exactly how long.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I thought, it's only been, you know, this April, this upcoming April, next month will be a year since I got the felony experience. And I thought, I'm not trying to get mad. Like I, like, I'd wonder if they've all done it, you know, like shipping my name out of the system. I'm out. Well, I'll let you know when I try it. After I get fucking handcuffed, I'm calling you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I'm going to like Matt, guess where I'm at. I'll be like, yeah, I knew that shit wasn't gonna work, bro. Yeah, I'll be like, fucking hell! Yeah, you'll be like, you're like one of the other guys that didn't help bail me out the first time. I'll be like, I don't know what I can do for you. But, yeah, man. Yeah, dude, Jesus Christ, fucking commissary, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Bro, I got, I was, listen, I was lucky in fucking prison. I smoked, I basically spent, that's what I spent my money on was cigarettes. So I was able to smoke, Every time we'd go to commissary, they sold Newports, Marlboros, whatever, on commissary at the prison I was in.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I would buy seven packs of cigarettes, one for each day, couple bags of noodles, and then I'd play cards and shit for everything else, for a brick of milds or, you know, black and milds, whatever the fuck, you know, or for someone to, I'd pay someone to do laundry for me, whatever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But, yeah, I luckily could smoke in there, man, because, like, I feel sorry for these fuckers now that can't have nicotine in prison, Jesus Christ.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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yeah yeah it will keep prisoners calm yeah i mean but it's a good thing you want prisoners to be calm there's less violence if you'd allow if you would allow them to smoke like iber it makes people happy to be able to go out and have a fucking cigarette like no wonder all these fuckers are on edge they're taking everything from them except caffeine like you know so i thought you came down with cancer again in the yes so yes so last year again um so just a second
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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As I smoke a cigarette, to tell you what.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Let me see if I can show you. This fucking camera. So I'm going to have to go this way with it. Can you see the line? Do you see it? No? It's right here. Okay. When you and I hang up, actually, what I'll do, do medical photos bother you? No. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Um, and then, so I graduated in 99 and about a year and a half, I think it was almost two years after I graduated, I had, um, kind of basically took a year off and I started go to, uh, to college in Nelsonville, Ohio, the place called Hawking. It's a, like a technical type school. It's, um, close to OU University, which is, you know, uh, Ohio University, not to be confused with OSU.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm going to send you pictures of it because I was like, when he had me open, removing everything, I told the nurse because I was awake, I was like, take a photo of this shit. So I've got a picture of it. It's gnarly. It looks like someone took a fucking melon baller and just took a scoop out of the side of my neck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So last year, I went to the dermatologist to get a checkup, whatever, and I had this spot on my neck right here. And it had been there my whole life, kind of like the mole on my leg. And it had recently started to, like, peel a little bit. It was kind of hurt. You know, it never did that before.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because I've always worn, like, necklaces and stuff, and it was rubbing against it, and it's never bothered me until then. And so they, obviously, that very day that I went, they cut it off and then, you know, cauterized it. did another biopsy on it. So I get a phone call and they're like, you have a tumor in your neck. And I'm like, fuck man, really? And they're like, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And it's, you know, it's not as bad as it sounds. It's a basal cell carcinoma, but you have a tumor. And I'm like, okay. And so go back, you know, it was about a month later, went back and got to actually see the surgeon from that dermatologist's office. And then right there that day,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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fucking needle, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, all the way around it to numb it, you know, and waited about 30 minutes for all that to take hold. And then literally, man... scalpel, opened me up, cauterized it so it wouldn't bleed and then cut around all the fucking margins in there. And, um, you know, and then this guy was a fucking wizard with stitches.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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When I show you the picture was the size of the hole and what he closed it up to and how now you can't even see it. You know what I mean? Like you can't, you can't see it at all unless you were right up on me. Um, it's amazing how good it, it, it healed. So yeah, I had cancer again and didn't have to do, luckily, any treatment this time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They managed to get it early enough and get all the margins when they cut it out. You know, I didn't have to go back. So yeah, I beat cancer twice, man. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like a cockroach, bro. Like, you know, I just, you can't kill me. Just keep going.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, of course. Keep it up. Yeah. He said, he said, Mr. Such and such. He's like, I want you to know that you are the reason that I, that I, you know, do healthcare. He's like, I think there should be more people like you that smoke a pack a day and tan three times a week. He's like, I want you to spread the word. No, he didn't. Job security. Yeah. I thought, what do you care, motherfucker?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
My insurance pays your fucking salary. I don't need a life lesson. He's like, well, if you don't smoke, you'll heal quicker. I thought, I'll take that under advisement. I had a fucking cigarette in my mouth as soon as I walked out in the hospital parking lot where it said no smoking, as a matter of fact. Quitters. I'm not fucking... Whatever. So, yeah. It's been good. Yeah, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Jesus, you see that? Uh, there's, you know, like you mentioned the other day on the phone, I understand you can edit and cut some of the stuff out. Uh, that day, I think it was just the number one, you know, to go from seeing you on here and then all of a sudden fucking Maddie's on the phone with me. And then I've really had just gotten up. I'm on this horrible schedule, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I don't go to bed till nine in the morning and I get up around two, three, two 30 in the afternoon.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
and i'm up all day after that and then around like 11 at night i'll sleep maybe two hours and then i am right back up at about 2 30 in the morning and i'm up all night long until 9 a.m again and it's just it's been that way for years now you know what i'm saying um there's a couple there's a couple other uh you know really good stories that i'd like to tell you um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
My ex, the one that kind of saved my life, there's a whole story with that. And then I didn't get a chance to tell you about the Mexican girl that I flew here from Mexico that I had never met in person before.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Okay. How long ago was this? Okay, so this would have been after my ex and I broke up. You got out of prison? Yes, and this was after I'd lived with my grandmothers. Then I eventually met my... She's my ex now, but a girl, her and I got together, and she really kind of was the lifesaver that got me the rest of the way over the hump and got me to get sober.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Um, but I, uh, didn't really have the grades to get into OU. You know what I mean? I was in high school. I had, I had to take a lot of special classes and stuff. I have learning disabilities and shit. I'm really hyper. I've got ADD and all that kind of shit. Like I was on meds from a very young age. Um, so I decided to try to go to college and, uh,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm sure you've heard the term sin eater before. This girl was my sin eater. It was so weird to see happen in real time, but this nice, wholesome girl, what she wanted to do with me, I'll never know. But the more her and I were together, it was like all the bad things that I had, all the bad habits, all that shit, slowly came off of me and got put onto her. And she became an addict.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
She started doing fucking pain pills. She started, you know, and then we had to both be put on Suboxone. And, you know, all this kind of crazy shit. It was so odd to look back now and think about. Because everything that was bad that I needed to quit and move forward from, she kind of took off of me and put on to her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And then after eight years of being together, you know, she had started cheating on me with her ex-husband over Facebook. She wasn't from here. She was from San Antonio, Texas. She had moved here to Ohio to be closer to one of her brothers who lived here and worked here at one of the factories around here. And so I met her through a mutual friend.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
We got together and basically were inseparable from the night we met. Didn't, you know, we got together, went home that night together and then just, she basically never left my side and we stayed together until eight years later until she left. And when she left, she fucking took everything. We had a truck that was in both of our names so I couldn't report it stolen.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
She took the truck, took like some of my clothes, took a bunch of furniture and shit. I came home to a fucking empty house. It was, yeah, and she didn't even know that she had been cheating on me. I had to find that out through one of our mutual friends because, you know, she was just, I came home and she was gone. I had no idea what the fuck was going on.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And then a mutual friend of ours called me and was like, look, you know, Tina left. She's not coming back. She's going back to Texas. You know, she told me to call and tell you this, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like trying to call her phone. She won't pick it up. She was gone. and then find out she had been cheating on me on Facebook for like the last six months with her ex-husband back in Texas.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
He fucking Western Unioned her the money to be able to afford to pack up the truck and come back home to him, and she did. When you say cheating on me on Facebook, you mean she'd just been communicating with him? Well, yes, but I still consider that cheating. Talking back and forth with your ex-husband, making plans to leave me to go be with him, talking. So, yeah, I say cheating, but yes. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And then she took off. Yes, she took off. And then, so, I've always been really good at talking on the phone. You know, if maybe you can't tell from this interview, I've never had a problem talking or, you know, whatever. I've always been really good over the phone. And this will matter in a second. So... A friend of mine, Nick, he was actually my barber, had a flat screen TV.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And this is 2000 and what? This would have been like 2009, somewhere around in there, something like that. When, you know, smart TVs were still kind of expensive. They weren't a very normal thing like they are now where you can get one for 200 bucks. Right. So he had a regular flat screen TV, but it was big.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
It was like, I think it was 55 inch or something, which was still considered big back then. And I had a smart TV, but it was small. It was like 43-inch or something. It was a Vizio. And he's like, I'll trade you this bigger Sanyo flat screen for your smaller TV because it's a smart TV. And I was like, well, I had cable with the house. So I was like, fuck yeah, I'll trade you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I just want a bigger screen. I don't even use a smart TV. Right. So traded. Well, he had had this TV mounted on his wall. and when he gave me the TV, it didn't have a base with it, you know, to set it on an entertainment stand or something like that, right? So, I thought, well, what the fuck am I going to do with this TV, man? I want to screw holes in the wall. I don't even know this place.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So I'd been in school really only for about a semester and got diagnosed with cancer. And so I'm only 20 years old, you know what I mean? Right, I forgot about that. Yeah, and so it was really crazy how it happened. I went to my family doctor for something just completely unrelated, just like a normal...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I was renting a place, you know, where my ex and I had been living. Um, and I thought, I don't want to screw holes in the wall. I'm going to call Sanyo and see if I can get a base for this TV. So, I call Sanyo. Now, here's the first thing. Did you know Sanyo is in Tijuana, Mexico? Well, if you ever buy Sanyo TV, that's where they make that motherfucker, is Tijuana, Mexico.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
That is where Sanyo is, and that's where their call center is. So I called the 1-800 number for Sanyo. They, you know, go through the automated bullshit, and they transfer me to the, I guess they would call it the parts, or the repair department. They had a name for this department. This girl picks up the phone and says that her name is Meredith.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And she's got the thickest Mexican accent, Spanish, whatever, Latino accent you could imagine. Okay. Like, yeah, my ass, your name's Meredith. Hello. My name is Tom. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, it's not. And so I start talking, but she spoke really good English. She just had a thick accent, but she understood perfect. So I start talking to her, explain to her, give her the model number of the TV.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And she's like, oh, yeah, I have a base for that. She's like, I'll tell you what. After talking to her for about 30 minutes, she's like, I'm going to send you this base for free. And I'm like, really? She's like, yeah. And I'm like, okay. Sure enough, like 10 days later, I hadn't received anything. So I call her back again. And I'm like, did you send it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
She's like, oh yeah, I sent it out, I swear. So every, because she was the sole person in this department that ordered all the parts and shifts. So every time you would call, you would get her. Okay. So I call her back. She's like, yeah, I promise. I mailed it. You know what, all this stuff. Sure enough, as I'm on the phone with her, I swear to God, there's a knock at my door.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
It's the fucking UPS man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
it's the fucking base to the TV as I'm on the phone with her asking like where it is whatever open the door fucking package on the porch it's the base to this same new TV like so I'm like you won't believe this it just came right now like I'm on the phone with her and she's like oh I'm so glad you got it all this stuff so she was so nice to me for sending me that base from time to time I would call back and just talk to her
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
okay just talk to yeah watch you as it worked okay because i at this point was stuck at home i had no car my ex and i'd split up she took the truck i was at home basically all day every day had nothing to do lonely and i was fucking calling people man something to do and i'm calling this girl in fucking mexico because i'm using the 1-800 number for saying yo so it's not like i'm dialing direct to mexico
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And, uh, talking to her, come to find out her real name. Uh, I'll give you her first name. I couldn't even barely fucking pronounce it. It was, uh, like Lou Adra or Lou, Lou. So, but she said, everybody calls me Lou, Lou Lee. So that's what I call the Lou Lee. So I would call back periodically from time to time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Well, talking on the phone while she was at work, um, turned into her and I emailing each other. Then we emailed photos to one another. So I saw what she looked like. Beautiful girl, about five foot tall, you know, built kind of like a gymnast, long brown hair, pretty face, you know. So we start and then I get her real phone number through the email.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
uh, doctor's appointment and I had this mole on the inside of my right leg and it'd been there, you know, forever. And just that day he happened to say, you know, I don't like the look of that. He's like, I want to cut that off. And I'm like, all right. And so he numbs my leg and all of a sudden I'm awake when he does it and he cuts around it and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So now I'm calling her in Mexico on her cell phone and we're talking back and forth. This goes on for a couple months. Then I had an iPad at the time. She did not, but her mom did. So she goes to her mom's house one day, and now she borrows her mom's iPad, and we start video chatting.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Now, this is all over the course of, like, months, this has all happened from TV base to now I'm video chatting with this girl that works for fucking Xenia. Right. Nuts. Okay? And as we keep video chatting and stuff, like, I'm telling her about my life, she's telling me about hers, all this kind of shit, and they celebrate pretty much the same holidays that we do in Mexico.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Like, Veterans Day, like, stuff like that, that's considered a holiday over there as well.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
um so there was a holiday coming up now i can't remember which holiday it was but she was going to have a long weekend from work and we've been talking about six months at this point and i said look um if you'll i'll cover half your plane ticket if you if you fly here okay i didn't get my mom involved it was so So she agrees. So as I'm on video chat with her, I grab the phone.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
We call fucking Delta. Book her a plane ticket. It was like $300. No, no, no. Scratch that. That was the rental car. It was like all together it was like $1,200 or something like that. Because that's a far flight, dude. You know what I mean? Round trip. And I agreed to pay for half of it. And she would cover the rental car. Because I had no car. She knew that. You know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So... So we plan all this out. And the day that she's supposed to fly out, like I'm trying to call her and she's not picking up the phone. And I thought, oh shit, she bailed. You know what I mean? Finally, she picks up the phone. And I did find out later on that she was considering not coming. You know, she was nervous, afraid, whatever. So...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
But we had been talking back and forth on video chat, almost like you were dating someone. We had talked about maybe, like, I was thinking about maybe moving to Mexico. Like, crazy shit. Because I had nothing else going on in life. I didn't give a fuck. And I had no passport, obviously, because I'm still a felon at this point back then.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
But, you know, you can cross into Mexico, but I just couldn't come back because I had no passport. Yeah, but they're going to let you back, you remember. Well, yeah, yeah. But, so... The day comes, I'd have my mom take me to fucking Columbus International Airport because I had no way to get there, right? And we're going to rent a car from the airport once I got there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
pulls the mole off and like I saw the look on his face when he did it like when he pulled the mole off of my leg like it had all these tentacles and stuff growing like off of it like connected to everything in my leg right and of course they won't tell you shit when they do that they've got to biopsy it you know what I mean right so
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So all this anticipation, all this shit, right? She had seen me live and in color for months on video chat. It's not like I was a stranger. She didn't know what I looked like. So fly up there that day. I go to the terminal. I watch the whole fucking plane unload. Nope. And I'm like, so I call her cell phone. She picks it up. I'm like, I'm standing here at the terminal. Where are you?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Oh, I already got off the plane. She had gotten off before I even got there. She's like, I'm at Enterprise Rental Car down blah, blah, blah at the end of the fucking thing. So I haul us back through the fucking airport down to Enterprise Rental Car. Turn the corner. How'd you miss her? I don't know. She must have gotten off like right before I'd gotten there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And I just, through all the crowd of people, walked past her and didn't see her. Like I said, she was five foot tall. You know what I mean? Like short little small thing. So I'd bust ass back through the airport.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
get down to where enterprise is and was all like surrounded by glass you know i turned the corner look through the fucking thing and there she is standing at the fucking counter at enterprise she sees me i see her i'm like you know run inside give each other a big fucking hug she's got a uh all she brought with her was a backpack she brought me authentic mexican homemade fucking tortillas from mexico in a backpack flew with them i always thought that was kind of cool
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
But here's the shitty part. So my mom sees that, yes, the girl actually... My mom stayed this whole time to make sure that I had a... Yes, and that I had a way to get home because we were going to rent a car. So if my mom would have just left, I'd have been stuck at the fucking airport if this girl didn't show up. You know what I mean? Because at the time, I didn't even have a driver's license.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah, so I couldn't rent a car. I couldn't anything. So... Why don't we have a driver's license? Because I just had an ID. My license had gotten suspended for driving under suspension. And, like, just I never got it reinstated. And basically just a lunatic? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I mean, like, I had had, um, you could still go online, you, personally, and look up a lot of, I've got a, if you try to pull up my traffic violation thing online, like, computer banks at fucking NASA light up. Like, it's, they'll just print pages of stop sign and speeding and fucking whatever, dude. I've had a fuck ton of driving error suspensions and all kinds of shit. Crazy. So what happened?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
The girl. Okay. So we get everything done at Enterprise. We go to go outside, and we're standing there. And I've been waiting months to see this girl in person, right? And we talked about dating, all this stuff. So as we're standing there waiting for the guys from Enterprise to bring the car up, we'd rented like a Dodge Charger, I think it was, or something. No, it was a Camry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I was excited to see her, so I hugged her again, and I leaned in to kiss her. And she pushes me away and goes, whoa, whoa. And I thought... Oh, okay. And I'm like, well, that's kind of weird. And I thought, well, she's been on an airplane all night long. Like she hadn't brushed her teeth. Maybe that's, maybe she's worried about that or something. You know, I don't know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
About a week and a half later, I was, I'll never forget, I was in the car with my mom. Now, this is like early 2000s still, so we had actual car phones for all you kids out there. We had phones that had cords on them in the fucking car, if you could imagine. Yeah, shopping. And I was in the car with my mom and the phone rang and it was my doctor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So we get in the car, we leave there, we go to Bob Evans restaurant to eat because she was hungry on the way home. And she's going to stay at my house, obviously with me over the weekend and then go back to the airport and, you know, whatever, fly home. So we get to my house first day. We go eat. We're talking back and forth. At this point, I'm still thinking everything's okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
We go to my house, get inside. And again, like I'm kind of getting her settled, show her the bedroom, all this stuff. You know, we decided we were going to kind of take a nap. So I kind of get everything together. She'd been up all night flying. So we get ready to go back there and lay down and take a nap.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And again, I tried to kiss her again and she stops me again and she goes, I just don't feel anything. And I'm like, excuse me? And she's like, yeah, she's like, I just don't feel anything. And I'm like, Well, how would you know? I'm like, well, you flew all the way here. Like, what the fuck? And she's like, you know, I just know myself. And I just, I know myself.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And you can picture this in a Mexican accent. And she's like, I just don't feel anything. And I'm like, I'm fucking pissed. Because I'm like, I paid half this plane ticket. Like, I thought I was going to get laid, bro. Like, what are you doing? I understand. You fucking twat. Like, what are you doing? So... You know, like I'm so goddamn mad. And she's like, well, we could even have sex.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
She's like, if you want, but I know that I'm not, I just don't feel anything. And I'm like, I didn't know what to fucking do. Like I was so upset, dude. And so I kind of just left her taking that by herself. I did not go to sleep. I went out, called my mom, like, I'm upset, I'm talking to her. The more upset I got, the more anger I got, the more anger I got. I was like, okay, I'm not doing this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
She wakes up from a nap, and I said, well, you know, I thought about what you said, and I just can't do this either. You need to go. And she kind of just looked at me. Now, she had bought a book from the airport, something to read, right? Like a novel, some thick thing from the bookstore. Okay, that will become relevant in a minute. So I'm like, you just need to go. I said, I can't do this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And she's like, well, I don't have money for a hotel. I'm like, I don't know what to tell you. I can't stay here with you. Well, we could still go out and do stuff together. She was like, we could have fun. You could show me around your town. I'm like, nah. I'm like, I don't want to. I'm so mad about spending the money and not getting late. No. So she leaves after about 30 minutes to Arden, even.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
She leaves. I'm just freaking out. I'm walking around the house, and I look, and there's that fucking book that she had bought, right, at the airport. Right. About 20 minutes later, I hear on the fucking door. I open the door. She came back for the fucking book. For the fucking book she wanted at the airport. She came back to pick up. She's like, I left my book here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And he said, look, we've taken care of everything on our end. You need to get to OSU hospital immediately to get into surgery. You know, you have cancer and it's spreading at an aggressive rate. And so within a few hours, I was in the hospital in Columbus at OSU, which is one of the best cancer hospitals in the country, actually. And, uh,
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Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I said, here you fucking go, honey. And gave her the book. She left. I don't know where she went. I don't know if she went back to Columbus. I don't know what. I never heard from her again. Six months of talking to this girl. Flew here from Mexico. Well, she probably slept in the car for two days.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Well, but I see the way she acted where she was like, I don't feel anything, blah, blah, blah, and all this kind of shit. It almost seemed like to me, she had told me before she came that she'd never been to Ohio. But it almost seemed like she came here for another reason. Because, like, she wasn't into that with me. But, like, I don't know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
It just seemed like maybe she came here, maybe she was going to hook up with someone else or meet up with someone else. I don't know. Because, you know, she's Mexican. Whatever. Who knows what the hell she's capable of. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Antifactor, Natty. She's fucking Mexican. She's dangerous. We don't know what's happening here. It's fucking madness. But she left and I never spoke to her again. Never heard from her again. I mean, I flew a girl in from Mexico on a whim. Because I was lonely. And she... Had standards. Yeah, fucking... Again, the rules applied to me. Yeah, the whole shit... Yes, I know. There's high standards.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yes. But she stole me on video chat. Soon as you and I are looking at each other now, for months, I didn't change one bit from what I am now to whatever. And she knew what I looked like, knew what I sounded like. I knew what she looked like.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Well, like I said, I'd never heard from her again. I don't know if she slept in a car. I didn't even fucking care at that point. Sometimes those things pop inside them and they don't get them out enough.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Probably. That fucking book, dude. It was some vampire kind of like Twilight novel or whatever. Understandable that she went back for it. Yeah, and she came back to ask for the fucking book. When I opened that fucking door and saw her, she's like, I left my book here. Like, I'll get it. Just a second. Like, fuck it. Come on, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
you know yeah potentially on papers dude and i asked her about that after she said i don't feel anything i was like but you and i talked about living together she's like well i think you're a super nice person she's like i'd like to see you get be happy and be get somewhere you're back on track she's like i would let you live with me she actually said that dude like we had a conversation about that but she just decided at that point after like well no i'm not into you now
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Even though we had talked about all kinds of things, sex and every fucking thing else on video chat for months. You know, women, they're... I know, but how many people you know that started with a phone call and ended up flying a fucking girl here from Mexico? Like... Nope, not a lot. It's a... Just your boy. Yeah, yeah. Fucking winner, winner, chicken dinner, buddy. Yeah. Winner.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah, I don't know why it didn't work out. Dude. Yeah. Beer was a little bit of an age difference. Let's see. Oh, well. I would have been... I think 30 or something then. I think she was 20-something. So not that big a deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not that big a deal. But still, you know. But yeah, good old Luli slash Meredith from Sanio Television Corporation. Yeah. Tijuana, Mexico. Incorporated.
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Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
had to have an epidural like a pregnant woman like where they stick the big thing in your back and numb you from the waist down and like basically took a huge like chunk out of the inside of my right leg from the knee down like when the surgery was done it looked like a shark took a half moon bite out of the inside of my leg right and that's how much they had to cut out to try to get all of the cancer
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oh where was it healthy choice yeah healthy choice yeah ah do you know what i had for dinner last night a cigarette and a rental no no close uh i i enjoy living by myself you know there's no one to tell you what to do so i got a mixing bowl out of the cabinet and ate an entire box of peanut butter captain crunch and a half gallon of milk yeah it was amazing where are you uh ohio right Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah, but here's the... Here's... Let me tell you the kind of person I am. I knew... I can tell... I can tell right off the rip if I'm going to get along with somebody, being in all seriousness. And yes, I've always been the kind of person that you either love me or you hate me. There's no in-between. And it does usually take people a couple years to get used to me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And then they'll be like, oh, well, that's just Jack. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah. Okay. But I'm... the most loyal fucker you could ever want is a friend, bro. Like, I, I, I'm a good dude. Like, and I don't have, you know, a lot of friends and stuff like that. And yes, I am loyal. Fuck that guy that I wore a while ago. I know, that's gonna say, what about that guy? He wasn't my friend. He was my fucking drug dealer. He wasn't my friend. Listen, I'm with you. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
That's the right thing. You just, Josh, Josh, I still talk to him to this day. The, Yeah, but I still talk to him to this day that we're still friends after all those years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I know. I'm on your side, but I'm with you. Yeah, I know. That guy ended up, the guy that we got his dad, he ended up getting busted for meth later on and all kinds of shit. I mean, he's, I don't even know if he's still alive. He's been to prison. I know I've heard through the grapevine at least a couple times. You probably saved his life. Maybe.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Jets, you can come say hi before I get off here so at least I can see you. God damn it. Stick your fucking head in here. Come here. How you doing, hon? It's good to meet you. I'm sure you've been listening to this whole madness for two hours. She's walked in periodically and shook her head.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And then it had also spread to like the lymph nodes in my right leg. So they had to remove the ones out of my groin and like all that shit. It was brutal. I was 20 years old. Scary. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. And, um, yeah, it, uh, so, you know, I had to have all that done. And like I said, it was wild, man. And, um, yeah, I did.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Did it go all right, though, man? Yeah, it went good. It went good. Yeah. I think somebody got a kick out of it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I know that compared to your life and like Boziacs and stuff, it was like, obviously, from the town I'm from, it is a crazy life that I've had. But compared to, you know, yes, you or Boziac or whatever, no, it's not been that crazy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
You're a character and you're upbeat.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
You'll never believe what happened. Oh, yeah. No, I'm animated as fuck. I'm like, yeah. And the last thing I want to tell you is about the dealer from Columbus. I mentioned to you on the phone, this guy lived in these apartments, He was a white boy. I still to this day don't know his real name. All I ever heard anyone call him was Ziggy. He had two missing front teeth.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
He had all his other teeth, and they weren't gold or platinum or whatever the fuck, but just two, no front teeth. And carried a Glock in his fucking hoodie pocket everywhere he went. and had hair standing straight the fuck up on his head, like a messy version of fucking Chidden Play or something, dude, if you can imagine that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Like, and was a big, heavy-set guy, and like I told you before, all the fucking guy did was play Soul Calm, Navy Seals on PlayStation. That's all he fucking cared about, dude, in life, was Soul Calm. That's it. And smoked Newports like they were fucking going out of style. Like, that's it. And I still, I don't know whatever happened to him, you know, whatever, but like Ziggy, like what the fuck?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
you know maybe you should look at what you can't look them up i don't want to look no no no no no because when i actually did get busted he uh i owed him a little money at the time uh he was i was buying for him but also i built such a relationship with him and i bought so much that if i needed a front he'd front me an ounce whatever no problem so not that it's a big amount of money now but i owed him about a thousand bucks which but to a dealer
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
thousand bucks you know what i mean so um i remember when i got out of jail there's a voicemail on my phone for him saying hey bro i hope you don't think i forgot about that thousand dollars he's like you need to get up with me and pay me this money and like i was like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I'm done dude like I changed my number like I just I was old I didn't want no part of that life plus owing him a grand and then going back up to give it to him who knows what because I owed him for so long who knows what he would have done to me you know what I mean so I just you've been arrested he knew you had been arrested
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
yeah yeah at that time that he would call you at all well that time so the timing the columbus where the first time i got caught where the car got impounded he did not know i told him that my phone broke and i that's why i hadn't called him for a week what i got yes he fucking heard about it and i thought dude there's no way you know what i mean but it was so crazy man it you know that he would call even call and say yeah
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Yeah, it was, I mean, I had people in this fucking town buying shit for me that worked at pharmacies around here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I had a girl that would fudge the books and literally trade me unopened bottles, pharmaceutical-sized bottles of Xanax and fucking yellow Perc-10s, the big giant school bus Percocets, trade them to me sealed and for, you know, half ounce of blood, whatever, and then I'd take them up to the city and trade him. Like, it was fucking crazy. It was nuts. So, yeah. All right. All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I did a couple rounds of that just as like a, to, to make sure, you know, that they've
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I'd love to talk to you again sometime, man. All right. I'd love to talk to you again, though, if you ever need anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
did got everything they said that the margins were really good when they cut it out they were pretty positive but they wanted to just make sure because I was so young you know what I mean to have that basically they told me this mole the growth rate had accelerated 20 years in the course of three months that's how much it had spread that's how fast malignant melanomas grow which is what kind of cancer it was if I didn't mention it was malignant melanoma
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And, uh, so got very lucky though. I beat it, um, made it over the five-year hump. Um, you know, but that is what really started my downfall into just everything addiction and, uh, whatever, you know, if you remember at the time, you know, 2000, 2001, there was no such thing as like a pill epidemic. There was no, um, Anything like that, man. Doctors were just handing that shit out like Tic Tacs.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
You know, you could go to an emergency room and get 20 Percocets. Like, I mean, just as easy as tripping and falling off the fucking curb. Like, it was just, you know what I mean? And so, because of the cancer and the surgery, they were prescribing me. I was getting Oxycontin. I was getting Percocet for, like, breakthrough pain. I was getting, you know, Valium to help me sleep. It was ridiculous.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
I'd never been on any medication like that before. I'd never, you know, up until this point, the most I'd ever done is smoke a joint. You know what I mean? Just with like some friends in high school. Right. Yeah. I understand. Yeah. So all of a sudden I'm on all this medication and like I'm getting hammered basically every day. Like fucked up. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And so after the surgery, I had started working at a telemarketing place. And... This dude, I mean, you couldn't have put an addict in a worse-than-fuck environment. Like, you know, it just...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
was that's all the kind of people that work there like everybody was railing percocets in the bathroom and like it was just madness and talking on the phone right but you still were being prescribed the medication yes at that point yeah at that point i was still being prescribed the meds but then just working there of course that's what people found out i was on the meds and people were like well let me buy a couple of those off of you and i'm like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
All right. You know, I mean, I'm not going to turn down 20 bucks or whatever it is. And so that started, you know, that whole thing. Now, as I'm working there at this telemarketing place, I'm on the meds and this new guy gets hired. And I won't say his last name, but his name was Josh. And him and I kind of became really fast friends. And, you know, back then I was still smoking weed as well.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
You know, I was taking these prescription pills. And so, you know, Josh and I started hanging out. And he started asking me, you know, can you get any weed, you know, stuff like that. And I'm like, yeah. And there was a guy that worked there that, you know, I could get killer weed from, you know, as much as I wanted really. And so I started getting this guy Josh Weed.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Well, come to find out, he was an undercover cop. And so, you know, one night I was, I left work and I got a phone call from him and he's like, hey, you know, I'm uptown such and such, you know, meet me here. And when I pulled up, I got sworn by police, you know, and I had like, I think a quarter ounce of weed on me or something, but I had, that he had been buying this weed for me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
And even, I was getting it for him, even though I wasn't, I guess you would say the distributor or whatever. I had to go to someone else to get it, but So they called me up to the police station, man. And, you know, basically I'm 21 at this point and read me the fucking riot act, scared the shit out of me, like do this or you're going to jail, you know, that whole thing. And, um, so I did, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
So they asked me to wire up and, and fucking, um,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
and get this they wanted the guy that was you know giving me the weed and once they found out who that was they realized that this is the guy at the this is the guy that one of the guys that works at the telemarketing place he had been he had been placed there on purpose as an undercover cop because they had heard locally how much drug dealing and shit was going on there okay now okay I understand yeah okay yeah so he got a job there
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Crime Stories Gone Wrong: Meet the Worst Dealer in America
Because they put him there. Yeah, sorry if I didn't specify that. So they have me, you know, I agree to it because I don't want to go to jail. I'm 20 fucking years old. At this point, I'm still scared. Like, don't let my mom find out. You know what I mean? Like, you're a kid. You're a fucking kid. Like, you're like, don't tell my parents. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. So I do what they want.