Jay Ackerman

And I think our story is appealing to some of the banks we're talking to and they're being pretty aggressive in how they're looking at us.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of it, but also making sure that we're building a relationship as we think about some inorganic opportunities out there that we have a potential lender that can support us with that.

No, no, no.

So, I mean, on the term loan, you know, they're all kind of in and around the same spot.

But we're you know, we are looking at some acquisition opportunities.

And, and we'd like to finance that in part with debt.

And we want to make sure we have a banking partner that's, you know, kind of, you know, at our, at our side on those opportunities.

Uh, no, I think, I think we would, um,

I mean, so we have the equity coming in and we probably bounce out with additional term loan.

Absolutely.

Sorry.

You know, my favorite business book would probably be Never Eat Alone by Keith Ferrazzi.

Although I'm reading right now, I'm reading The Founder, which is also a great book.

Yeah.

So a timely one with John Donahoe, who just stepped into the Nike CEO position yesterday, leaving ServiceNow.

You know, since I'm kind of a market facing leader, I would probably have to say HubSpot.

So I look into the app every day to see our sales team is doing and building pipeline and and drive an activity with prospects.

Uh, target seven, but, uh, not often hitting it.

So I'm about six and a half.