Jay Bhattacharya

And so you're like, well, what went wrong?

We just didn't do it hard enough.

And the problem is like a lot of people

have been hurt.

There are people in the scientific community, pesky French epidemiologists, they're saying, look, this is a really bad idea.

And you can't get the political will to do this unless, for something so extraordinary, you need absolute unanimity in the scientific community.

If there's debate, it's not going to happen.

You're not going to have another lockdown.

And so what you do is you suppress speech, you suppress dissent, and you make sure that anyone who dissents, that their reputation is destroyed.

So that other people won't speak up.

There's still some arguments over that, but yes, I'll grant that.

I mean...

first, I wouldn't have recommended sending COVID-infected patients back to nursing homes.

But once you are four to six months in... The question is, why were they made?

It was the wrong goal.

There were measures that could have been taken very quickly that could have helped.

So for instance, there was a paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences finding that part of the way that nursing home disease spread happened in 2020 was that you had the same people working in multiple nursing homes.

And so they go from, they track disease from one to the other.

You could have like,

restructured nursing home staffing so that you only worked in one nursing home, less movement for the workers in and out.