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Jay Hoag

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

What were the keys?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

I'm going to mix my sporting metaphors.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

Batting average business, you can't hit 1,000, but you have to be a decent hitter.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

Or using basketball example, Steph Curry, in the news after the game, said last night, greatest three-point shooter of all time, greatest scorer of all time, only makes 42.5% of his three-point shots.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

Now, as an investor, you have to be over 50%, but it's still not, you're not gonna be perfect.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

So part of it is you have to be willing to take some level of risk, no matter how much diligence you do.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

And then from a managing the firm standpoint, we try not to repeat our mistakes, either as a managing the firm or investing, but probably made every mistake in the books.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

Cause we talk a lot about obviously Netflix and Spotify and others, but it's also, we had plenty of bad investments.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

Investments that didn't work out well,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

And then also in hindsight, ones where we sit around and say, well, I'm not sure what we were thinking on that one, particularly in the internet bubble days.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

But it comes down to internal talent.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

And I think last time we talked about Reed Hastings and the concept of stunning colleagues and the fact that a great investor is not 30 or 40%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

better than a typical investor.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

Similar, a great engineer is not 30 to 40% better than an average engineer.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

It's order of magnitude.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

That's been the focus on the internal side, people side.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

We've had an enormous number of people over that 30-year period of time contribute to TCV.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

Some have gone on to greatness at other firms as well.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

So that's one area where there's been many iterations, I think, for the industry.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

And then for us, see if I can walk through it.